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Honda Pilot, Transmission, SUV
May 29, 2012 (8:36 am)
I've heard so many issues with the trans, torque converters, pressure switches etc. on the Pilots. I have 2003 Pilot 224K, rebuilt trans at 120K (started to fail with high rev, high jerking on highway). I , NOW, have a rough jerk at 30-40 mph. I have the flashing D, but that started at 150K or so and no other symtoms on the trans. AAMCO thought it was a bad electrical connection due to no error codes, no symptoms. Now, I'm getting VTM-4 light on intermittantly. The flashing D is annoying, but again, no other symptoms.
My 2004 Odyssey is another story, but just bad quality from Honda. New trans on that at 112K. I had the bad peeling paint (blue) and horrible service from Honda America and locally. Diffinetly my last Honda.
#345 of 392 Machanic, transmission, blinkg d and me
Jun 06, 2012 (7:55 am)
Have a problem: Last week both technician and owner of shop told me I needed to flush my 05 Honda pilot transmission. Talked with owner about flushing the transmission and he said he had a special machine for this-and that it was safe for my car. On Friday the 1st of June took car in at 9am by 1:30 car still was not done-At 3 I was told that they had done a simple drain and fill-that Honda does not recommend flushing?-Ok I asked if they followed the owner's manual with the drain, refill then drive, drain refill then drive then the drain refill-they had not so i had them do it-now 4 days later my D is flashing which means something is wrong with the transmission-could they have tried to flush the transmission? Do I have any recourse?
#346 of 392 Re: 2004 Pilot WITH the jet fix having problems [pilotfunfinder]
Jun 15, 2012 (12:14 pm)
This is very interesting... May I ask you if you were experiencing the "shudder issue" at very low RPMs like 1500 RPMs? The reason I ask is because the shudder only happens for me when I'm at 1500 (or very close to that RPM) and only when I am in normal drive. In D3 the shudder noise does not happen.
I have a 2004 Pilot and recently replaced my transmission (with a used one) because of a shudder issue. Unfortunately the shudder issue is still there. Could I have purchased a bad transmission or is the issue the torque converter?
#347 of 392 Follow up to pilotfunfinder post
Jun 15, 2012 (12:27 pm)
It happened for me at 35-40 MPH. I never had the flashing "d" light. If you replaced the tranny with the same Honda tranny that has the known problem, it would or could happen again. Sorry.
#348 of 392 2004 pilot tranny problem
Jun 16, 2012 (4:39 pm)
I bought my used 2004 Honda Pilot with 59000 miles on it about 3 months ago. I thought it worked great when I bought it. A few weeks after I purchased the car it started to idle roughly and even died a couple of times. In addition it would shudder and not responds to gas at lower speeds. It would also down shift in jolting way intermittently.
Anyway I have brought it to the dealer and 2 other mechanics and they have replaced the idle control valve twice, MAP sensor, air flow meter, cleaned the egr valve, valve adjustment, new spark plugs, transmission fluid change, new battery, new coolant and thermostat. The car has this problem intermittently.
Finally a local honda mechanic figured it out today. He says that the torque converter is bad and that it would be 1700 to fix it. I'm wondering if this will actually fix the problem. Is it better to get the whole tranny replaced or is the torque converter by itself fine.
This car does have a recall on the transmission and a oil heat shield was put in at 2200 miles. Does anyone one know if the torque converter is related to the recall problem.
#349 of 392 Re: 2004 pilot tranny problem [manusrf]
Jun 18, 2012 (4:47 am)
I am not a mechanic but have read many posts on the problem and yes, I thought the converter was a huge part of the problem. If I remember correctly, you can check out the statement Acura made in regards to their tranny's and see that the converter was also included in the fix. Someone posted a pic. of the information on this site. If I can find it, I will repost it here for you to read.
Are you saying that you are under the recall for Honda's transmission? And, the tranny was replaced at 2200 miles or just the heat shield was replaced?
If so, could you help the rest of us that are not in the recall to understand just what they will do for you? Maybe post some of the recall paperwork. It would be helpful to see the language and just how they address the situation. Many of us have the exact same problem, but are outside the VIN numbers for the recall. Thanks.
As for your problem being intermittent, that seems to be most folks beginning problem which escalates from there - sometimes quite quickly.
#350 of 392 Re: 2004 pilot tranny problem [campkapala]
Jun 26, 2012 (10:41 pm)
At 2200 miles the heat shield was installed. The problem is getting the dealer to admit that the torque converter is bad. When I brought the car to the dealer in the past they wanted to do a valve adjustment and did not think it was the torque converter.
It took 3 honda mechanics to diagnose it as the torque converter. I'm still stuck with the car and continue to drive it. I'm still not sure if I should go ahead and replace the torque converter or if the whole tranny needs to be replaced. Also considering trading it in.
#351 of 392 Re: 2004 pilot tranny problem [manusrf]
Jun 27, 2012 (5:04 am)
So far, my problem is not regular. That makes it hard for me to show my mechanic what I am talking about and gives room for the Honda mechanics to make other excuses. From reading the posts, I know exactly what is wrong and the end result. I am just not certain how long I have until it quits shifting altogether. I still have not found that Acura statement but I believe they replaced the convertor and transmission if the car was over a certain mileage. My mechanic puts Shudder Fix in on a regular basis but that is just really only a "bandaid" in my opinion. When they drive my car, it does not have the shutter. I think it is because it has more of a problem on a slow acceleration shift. If you "punch it", it doesn't seem to shutter. When does your car have the problem?