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Honda Pilot, Transmission, SUV
May 16, 2012 (11:54 am)
I have the Flashing D, sometimes. It will flash for a few days, every trip, then sometimes it disappears for weeks...or months and it's back.
I also have a strong feeling shift at 35-40 mph, again, sometimes it's stronger than others, sometimes it's a smooth shift.
Last week, I have the VTM-4 light go on for a few trips and nothing every since.
I've had the flashing D for over 2 years!!! It was around 15,000 miles after the re-built trans was put in by AAMCO. I drove the 2003 Pilot into AAMCO when the D was flashing. He checked the codes and said there were no codes to read. He thought it was a corroded wire/connector. (I wasn't going to pay to find out where).
I had the new trans installed at 150,000 miles (approx) and it now has 223,000. The Flashing D is annoying!!!!
I'd love to fix it, but it runs with "no major" issues. I'm not paying Honda or someone to guess on the issues. annoying!!!!!
#327 of 408 Re: trans issues? [spamman66]
May 17, 2012 (5:43 am)
I have never had any warning lights flash but I do have the intermittent shutter at around 30 mph and am also now experiencing as you desribed "strong feeling shifts" at various other speeds. I have 145k.
#328 of 408 Re: trans issues? [spamman66]
May 18, 2012 (12:47 pm)
Generally i don't go on to blog such as these, but after experiencing the fun i often receive at our Japanese auto shop in Texas I've decided to hopefully help spread some light on the so called "facts" people receive through forums such as these. My knowledge is based on working as a service adviser and manager over the past two years at my father's automotive repair shop and whom he himself has worked on Honda's for the past 30 years of his life. Plus i grew up in a shop practically.
When it comes to Odyssey's they are great vehicle's mechanically speaking, but unfortunately transmissions where sold to the cheapest bidder when they were made. If you own this vehicle and haven't kept up your 30k service (especially the trans. fluid change) for the last 60-90k miles. Then i can almost assure you that the transmission is internally not working correctly.
You will know the signs by the "D" light flashing (this is the computer saying there is a trans. problem, may be mechanical or trans. computer...usually the former), hesitation when first accelerating from a stop light, or if check the trans. fluid and its not pink but dark or black... then the trans. is gone, its just a matter of when it will not allow you to accelerate at all.
From this point many people wind up going the silly route and spending about $1500 grand on the trans. without asking if the tech is ASE certified master tech or if there is at least a one year warranty for the parts that were replaced. THIS HAPPENS ALL DAY LONG. If you are expecting the vehicle to work for years after paying that much, you are fooling yourself. The average trans. overhaul alone is about $25-3500 grand easy, if you are not paying this than either its aftermarket parts, or the shop owner is not paying for a true technician (meaning shade tree mechanic or worse)
Many people try to use trans. fluid's to "hope" the problem away. If you are using some type of brand fluid that supposedly makes the trans. better its a lie! This as well as a trans. fluid flush is a big fat waste of money that you deserve to keep for yourself. I apologize if the industry has lied to you and said that Honda's are suppose to have trans. fluid flushes but that's silly at best. The Honda corporation has already sent out letters to their dealerships years ago about this type of selling and that its a waste of the customers money. If someone says that you need a trans. fluid flush then you get in the car and leave, because they don't know Honda's or their transmission. At our store we have never and will never sell one of those things.
If you are fed up with the Odyssey's i definitely understand, we often inform people who are potentially buying these vehicles to instead by the Toyota Sienna. Toyota's are more reliable, trans. are built well and almost all their vehicle's after about 2001 have timing chain's instead of belt's. Which means not only that its a life time part but its also life time warranty if it breaks. Lastly, the big difference with Toyota's is that they are non interference engines; so if the belt break's we aren't talking about a $1500-2500 grand repair because of valve's bent and such.
Hope that informs most people well enough, I'm just tired of seeing everyone get ripped off.
#329 of 408 Re: trans issues? [lionsroar]
May 18, 2012 (12:50 pm)
i apologize, i thought i had seen someone posting about odyssey on this particular post, my bad. Though the principle's remain the same.
#330 of 408 Re: trans issues? [lionsroar]
May 18, 2012 (1:15 pm)
Great post from a trusted source; however, the central issue is that Honda has taken the route of stating 100K miles out of a transmission is perfectly acceptable. I, as many that have had the misfortune of stumbling upon this forum, am utterly appalled that buying into the Honda umbrella of reliability was so negligently passed off to avoid losing $.
All of the early generation Odyssey V6 variants (Pilot, Accord, MDX...) we're subject to this inferior transmission. The fact that they issued the jet kit recall to cover their rears was equally insulting. There's a 99% chance that if you experience just one of the symptoms described in this thread, it's not a question of "if" but, "when" your tranny will fail.
We have topped 300 posts in this forum and I can tell you the Odyssey trail is even worse. This doesn't account for the poor souls that were fleeced by service depts and led to believe it was something they had done wrong.
So, at what point does it become a brand integrity issue that Honda will assume liability for? I will say it again: KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS! I feel retribution will come about someday.
#331 of 408 Re: trans issues? [gatdammit]
May 18, 2012 (1:55 pm)
agreed. Its very sad that this has happened with Honda, mind you this has technically happened to about every brand from Ford to Nissan in one way, shape or form. But considering just how much we like Honda around here (at least at our shop) and know they they are great when it comes to engine's in general, i agree that its very frustrating to see so many with the Trans. problem; hopefully soon they will end their bean counting ways and finish what they started in creating the family vehicle.
#332 of 408 Re: 2005 Pilot Transmission problems [hapeacres]
May 22, 2012 (11:03 am)
thank you,,3rd and 4th gear shifters , about how much should that cost?
#333 of 408 Re: 2005 Pilot Transmission problems [kendall8]
May 23, 2012 (5:12 am)
3rd and 4th gear shifters? i think i'm missing something in context. Is the shop you are working with telling you those need to be replaced or do you feel you have an issue when the car is in 3rd and 4th gear?
#334 of 408 OMG The dreaded D blinking light
May 23, 2012 (4:06 pm)
On my way home from the dealership, the D started blinking. Why was I at the dealership. Well, to have two motor mounts replaced and the fuel hose to the tank replaced. Total bill, $900.00. The same story as every other person on this site. Be advised, 2004 Honda pilots are trouble. I love the car but I will not pay to have the trans replaced.
#335 of 408 Re: OMG The dreaded D blinking light [oldewick]
May 23, 2012 (6:23 pm)
I had to have two motor mounts replaced also. Like you said, just another Pilot problem.