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Re: Are you using an Ethanol fuel mix [streaker] by jacksan1
Oct 31, 2007 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: streaker (Oct 31, 2007 6:36 am)

Do you know what the ethanol mix ratio is where you are? Where I live, Minnesota, a 10% ethanol blend is mandatory in all gasoline sold. You have no choice here. However, the E10 standard is very common in the U.S., and certainly Nissan would program the MCU/MPU to accept this kind of blend, as has every auto manufacturer who sells in the U.S.
 
Of course, if the MCU/MPU is malfunctioning, thus not being able to properly compensate for the ethanol mixture, you could have a problem you are describing. Bad MCU/MPS has been reported among the early-production Versas, so you may want to speak with your dealership about that.
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Nissan Versa CVT by acaboss
Dec 06, 2007 (9:33 am)
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Anybody have problems with CVT? I have a sedan with 8,000 miles on it. Started acting up - and couldn't go in reverse. Took it to the dealer and they are replacing the entire transmission.
 
Just wondered if this was a rare problem????
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Re: Nissan Versa CVT [acaboss] by jacksan1
Dec 06, 2007 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: acaboss (Dec 06, 2007 9:33 am)

That sounds rare. The JDM Tiida (Versa in Japan) did have a recall earlier in the year for one of the CVT clutch hubs (could crack/break), but I did not think this recall had applied to the Versa.
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Fuel Pump #3 by tamolta
Dec 12, 2007 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: tamolta (Oct 30, 2007 6:30 pm)

I'm having fuel pump #3 installed today (12/12/07) in my 2007 versa. The 1st, (original) failed at about 5000 miles and the 2nd about 1700 miles later. Hopefully this 3rd one will last. Hope this helps...
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Re: Nissan Versa CVT [acaboss] by jd10013
Dec 15, 2007 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: acaboss (Dec 06, 2007 9:33 am)

Took it to the dealer and they are replacing the entire transmission.
 
I think that standard procedure with the cvt. any kind of problem will be dealt with by replacing the whole thing. I don't know if its because they're new and the engineers want to be able to look at the ones that fail, or if parts are hard to get, or few tech at the dealerships know how to fix them. But everybody who's had a problem (I haven't seen many) all have got a new trans.
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Re: Has Anyone Had This Problem? [cathy8] by cathy8
Dec 16, 2007 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: cathy8 (Jan 17, 2007 10:42 am)

Update: Problems still exist a year later! Nissan Canada took my issues seriously though and in September replaced the ECM, IPDM, Throttle Changer and a few other fuel injection items. The bill was over $2000 to Nissan.
 
I had no problems during the warmer weather but now that it is winter again the problems have started. Here's a rundown of my last week:
 
Saturday, December 8/07:
The car started but the engine light stayed on. When I pushed the gas peddle there was no gas going to the engine. It could be driven but was in safe mode. I shut the car off. There was a strong smell of gas in the garage.
I waited 5 minutes and tried again. Car started fine.
1/4 tank of gas. I filled the tank up. (I also filled up again on Wednesday when it was 1/2 full. I wanted to see if keeping the tank filled would alleviate the problems.)
 
Tuesday, December 11/07:
As I was driving uphill over an overpass on the perimeter the engine started to race and the tachometer rose to about 3.5. Then it fell to normal of 2.5. The cruise control was on so my speed was constant at 90 KM.
 
Friday, December 14/07:
I was driving at about 60 KM and the engine started to race. The tachometer rose to about 3.5 and then fell to normal.
 
Saturday, December 15/07:
The car started but the engine light stayed on. When I pushed the gas peddle there was no gas going to the engine. It could be driven but was in safe mode. I backed out of the garage and drove back in. There was a strong smell of gas in the garage.
I shut the car off and tried to start it again. It would not start.
I waited 5 minutes and it started. The engine light came on and would not shut off.
I shut the car off and waited another 5 minutes. It started but still the engine light would not shut off.
The tank was just under 3/4 full.
I drove to the gas station and filled up. The engine light remained on.
I drove to Sobey's. It started fine but the engine light was still on.
I drove to the other side of the city. After sitting for 4.5 hours it started fine but the engine light remained on.
 
I'm getting close to trading in the car. However, I just looked up the black book value and it has depreciated $6000 - $7000 in a year. Yikes! I'm not sure what to do. I need a reliable vehicle for cold winter travel.
 
Cathy
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Re: Has Anyone Had This Problem? [cathy8] by jacksan1
Dec 16, 2007 (10:28 pm)
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Replying to: cathy8 (Dec 16, 2007 12:37 pm)

Gosh, I am so sorry to hear about all the problems that you are experiencing. You are actually being very patient - I do not know whether I would give this many chances to Nissan.
 
I do not know the laws of your province, but is there anythinkg like what we in the U.S. call a lemon law that forces the dealership/manufacturer to take back your car?
 
My concern, as it appears for you, is that problems may continue to recur, and the bigger problem is that your warranty will eventually run its course and problems will keep happening still.
 
Yet, there is definitely the issue of taking a depreciation hit if you trade the car in. But I would be nervous to continue to drive a car like this if I were you. Yours may well be one of those statistical oddball, but it doesn't help to know that you are in that group, since you still have to deal with this particular vechicle.
 
No one can decide this question for you, but placing myself in your situation to the extent that I can imagine, I would ask thse questions if I were you:
 
1) Is there a possibility of a life-threatening danger?
If you drive lots in the countryside and your car dying can put you in danger, that's a good reason not to stick with this particular car;
 
2) Does not having the car directly impact your earning?
Do you run a business, for instance, for which a dead vehicle directly hits the bottom line, or force you to miss work if your car dies?
 
3) Do you have an alternative vehicle?
Do you have another car to turn to while your Versa is in the shop, especially after the warranty runs out and if the dealership does not give you a loaner?
 
Everyone would put a different weighting on these questions, but if I were you in this situation, all these questions would weigh very heavily, and if 1) and/or 2) is "Yes" and 3) is a "no," I would get rid of my car.
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Re: Has Anyone Had This Problem? [jacksan1] by cathy8
Dec 17, 2007 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Dec 16, 2007 10:28 pm)

Thanks Jacksan, for an excellent reply. You've made some very valid points that are definitely food for thought. According to your weighting I should get rid of my car since I answered yes to 1 & 2 and no to 3. Last winter when I first experienced troubles I was hopping mad. I looked into whether there was a lemon law in the province (there isn't) and talked to the dealership about a new car. Unfortunately Nissan or the dealership wouldn't take it back.
 
I also called CAA to find out my rights in the situation. I was advised to work with the dealership to try to rectify the problem. If the dealership refused to work with me then I could apply for an arbitrator to mediate. If we could not agree then the arbitrator could decide how much my car was worth and the dealership would have to purchase it back. His decision would be binding. But, the dealership and Nissan have tried very hard to figure out what's wrong so I never applied for an arbitrator.
 
This morning my engine light was still on so I drove to the dealership before work. The service manager had received my detailed e-mail and forwarded it to Nissan. He scanned the car's computer and once again it showed a throttle problem. These parts had all been changed in September. The scan turned the engine light off and the car drove fine all day. Now I'm waiting to hear about Nissan's next plan of action.
 
I've checked out some alternative cars and there doesn't seem to be much to replace it with. The Yaris doesn't come with cruise control. The Fit doesn't have a height adjustible driver's seat. I'm short and couldn't see over the stearing wheel. I'm not crazy about Ford or GM. Do I take a chance on another Versa? I don't know. I love the car but sure don't want to buy another lemon.
 
Cathy
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Re: Has Anyone Had This Problem? [cathy8] by jacksan1
Dec 18, 2007 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: cathy8 (Dec 17, 2007 4:13 pm)

Cathy, my wife, who actually drives a Honda Fit, is 5' 2", and she says she is very comfortably able to drive her Fit. Of course, everyone's body configuration is different, with no such thing as "Anyone above this height can see well," so the Fit may not work for you.
 
Trying another Versa is a possibility. The chance of your hitting another lemon is pretty small, I would say. On an emotional basis, I personally would have a hard time giving another chance to something that has given me plenty of grief, but on a more objective level, you would have to be might unlucky to hit upon yet another unreliable Versa.
 
According to Consumer Reports, the surveyed Versas are reporting the reliability level of "Average." JD Power & Associates has reported basically a very poor reliability score for the Versa. Anecdotal evidence indicates that the earlier production Versas suffered from a number of problems, whereas the later Versas have shown significant quality improvements. It is possible that the samples for JD Power were front-loaded with earlier production units, whereas the Consumer Reports survey samples were more evenly spread.
 
Do you need a hatchback? If not, Honda Civic may be a good choice. The Corolla and Matrix Station Wagon will be all-new in the early part of 2008, and they should be pretty good. If you need a hatchback, maybe a Scion can do it for you.
 
The Versa is a good car. I drove one a lot in Japan, where it is called the Tiida. It is really too bad that you have had to suffer so many failures in your car.
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Re: Has Anyone Had This Problem? [jacksan1] by cathy8
Dec 19, 2007 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Dec 18, 2007 2:13 pm)

Does your wife have the 16" wheels on her FIT? I'm wondering if they would make a difference in how the car feels. I love sitting up high in the Versa and not feeling like I'm sitting on the ground.
 
I had no idea that the Matrix and Corolla were coming out with new body styles in early 2008. I just did an Internet search and saw that the Corolla is getting bigger and the Matrix is getting lower and becoming a hatchback. I like the look of the Matrix but being a first year model I'm rather leary.
 
I tried the Civic last year when I was looking for a car but because it was bigger than previous models I didn't really like it. I'm very much a small car person. I've owned Civics since the 70s and my 2002 was a real disappointment. At 70,000 KM suspension problems showed up and even though Honda paid for the first fix under warranty I had to pay for 2 more before I got rid of it at 125,000 KM. The best car I owed my 1992 and I had it for 10 years.
 
I dont need a hatchback but just wanted a change from my usual 4 door sedan. Unfortunately the Scion isn't available in Canada as I've heard good things about it.
 
I still like the Versa best. If I could be assured that I'd get a good one I'd buy another in a flash.
 
Thanks for the recommendations.
 
Cathy

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