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You are in the Nissan Versa
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Nissan Versa, Nissan, Engine, Hatchback
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#128 of 242 nissan versa 2007
Jan 03, 2010 (10:14 am)
Just to start my 2007 versa has had alot of issues, the aircondition/ heat cable was broken at the first week of ownership. Then again the replacement of the a/c control in the dash. Then 3 times to get the service engine light out for good ( it was the evap system problem) then the carpet was completly replaced due to the drivers side hard plastic area on foot area coming off. Note new carpet does not have the hard plastic area covering the carpet anymore. The steering wheel replaced the material was coming apart . The front struts upper mount replaced due to making a lot of noise when going over any bumps.Clips at the back seat latch area changed out twice due to breaking.Then the airbag light switch light stayed on after they serviced it. Then the airbag switch fell into the dash had to get it reinstalled. Now I have to bring it in due to no start for about 25 seconds of cranking several times. Wow is this enough............
#129 of 242 Re: nissan versa 2007 [mpciggy]
Jan 03, 2010 (10:29 am)
I started this thread and my sympathies are certainly with you. I'm so glad that I no longer have this car.
Nissan was not able to resolve my problems so I took them to arbitration (Canada only) and won the case. The lawyer who was the arbitrator could not believe that Nissan didn't feel that having a car that wouldn't start properly and run properly in our cold winters was a problem. My car wouldn't drive more than 15 mph on some days! I won the hearing and Nissan was forced to buy back my car. I took a $7000 hit but it was worth it at the time because I needed a reliable car in -40 weather.
I don't know how the lemon law works in the US but perhaps you should check to see if you qualify. Having a car that is in for repairs constantly is soooo frustrating! Especially a new car!
#130 of 242 Re: Engine/Trans --Again In The Shop [motorrider]
Feb 17, 2010 (7:20 pm)
Just wondering how your car is running since they replace the TCM?
My car is having the same issues and I am hoping you can help me do a little self-diagnosis before I call the dealership.
Also, was this repair covered under the warranty or extended warranty? (Not alot of extra cash lying around right now....)
#131 of 242 Re: Engine/Trans --Again In The Shop [faction]
Feb 17, 2010 (7:36 pm)
Changing the TCM didn't do a darn thing. My car still went into safe mode on the winter and accelerated on its own. I finally got fed up with it being in and out of the dealership and no one knowing what was wrong that I applied for arbitration. (This is a Canadian alternative to the US lemon laws.) I won the case and Nissan had to purchase my car back for a depreciated price. I was just happy to get rid of it.
#132 of 242 Re: Engine/Trans --Again In The Shop [faction]
Feb 17, 2010 (10:14 pm)
after the car was in the shop 3 times for the same problem --
1st time they couldn't diagnose the problem
2nd time they replaced the transmission and it did it again within two days
3rd time they replaced the TCM and they said that the Nissan Engineers wouldn't guarantee that would fix the problem
this all happend within a 2 week period
we sold the car and got a Mazda - absolutely no problems with the Mazda in 2 years
#133 of 242 2010 Manual Versa
May 26, 2010 (2:11 pm)
I bought the 2010 Versa hatchback 2 months ago. I first returned to the dealer after noticing a distinct 'clunk' when switching into 2nd gear on a cold engine. The service dept said they heard nothing and were unable to duplicate the sound, and I was sent away. It persisted, and I started noticing an intermittent, rotational rattle when the car was idling. I returned to the service dept. with the new and old issues. They kept the car overnight and told me the next day they couldn't duplicate either of the sounds. I convinced a mechanic to sit in the car with me, and he heard and acknowledged both issues. He told me to bring the car back, but he personally would be out of work starting that day for medical reasons. I brought the car back, someone else looked at it, couldn't hear the rattling, but told me the 'clunk" was the CVT transmission. "It's a manual transmission," I told him. The service manager was called out and agreed to take the car again to check out both issues. When I returned, they said the 'clunk' was the ABS brakes self-check, and that they didn't hear the rattling. I convinced another mechanic to sit in the car with me and listen, he heard and acknowledged the rattle. I left the car with them again, and they decided it was in the transmission, and they would replace the transmission. They did so, and the noise persists.
One of the rental cars they gave me during all this was also a Versa hatchback, automatic. I noticed on the highway that at 70 mph, the engine was at about 2700 RPM. With my manual at 70 MPH, the engine is at 3100-3200 RPM.
Is a manual transmission supposed to run at higher RPM than an automatic?
Also I've lost faith in this dealer service dept. At what point (still under warranty) can I bring the car to my own trusted mechanic of the last 13 years?
#134 of 242 Re: 2010 Manual Versa [boksulya]
by PFFlyer@Edmunds HOST
May 27, 2010 (2:53 am)
I have a 2007 6-speed Versa with 78,000 miles on it and I'm picking up a 2010 tomorrow as I pass the 2007 along to my daughter. The 2010 is going to be my first with ABS, so I'm expecting to hear noises I haven't heard before. I'm not clear what you mean by "rotational rattle" but I'll say that the Versa makes a little more noise from under the hood than my previous Sentras and Altimas. Sort of sound like valve noise, but it's not, just seems to be the normal sounds of the engine. Starting up a 2010 the other day at my dealer ( a great one by the way, been buying Datsuns/Nissans from the same salesman since 1979) the engine sounds are identical.
I've never driven a Versa with an automatic, but I can verify that your RPM observation is correct on the manual. It's really my only minor question about the 6-speed. It feels like it could use a 7th gear, or be geared a little different to lower the RPMs just a bit in 6th gear. But like I said, that's a minor wish list item for me.
I'll post about my ABS experiences in the Versa brake discussion as soon as I have a few days of driving the 2010 around
#135 of 242 Re: 2010 Manual Versa [pf_flyer]
May 27, 2010 (4:25 am)
I'd love to accept that the rattling noise is perfectly normal on the Versa, but when I was given the Versa hatchback automatic as a rental, that car didn't make the same noise.
Thanks for your input.
I'm just going to keep at it with these service guys. Would it be of any help for me to contact Nissan directly?
#136 of 242 Re: 2010 Manual Versa [boksulya]
by PFFlyer@Edmunds HOST
May 27, 2010 (12:04 pm)
It might light a bit of a fire under them to contact Nissan directly, although I'm not clear on what you mean by "rotational rattle". To me, that conjures up something like a noisy fan that's rattling as it's spinning, or something like a loose metal shield that's vibrating at a certain engine RPM... in other words, something external ON the engine, not an internal noise like valve noise.
Does the noise disappear above idle? What makes it worse or better? It's hard to say what you might want to do based on the description of the sound.
Am I correct that your clunk went away when they replaced the transmission?
#137 of 242 Re: 2010 Manual Versa [pf_flyer]
May 28, 2010 (12:31 pm)
After they replaced the transmission, I was told the car was test driven and sounded OK to them. I heard the sound as soon as I started driving. I returned to the service dept and was told the rattling sound is clutch chatter, perfectly normal (why didn't they say this when I first picked it up? I'm believing them less and less.) However the definition of clutch chatter I found online does not describe the sound I hear. This rattle does seem to ease when I step on the clutch. I can't hear it while driving, I don't know if it disappears or is obscured by the engine sound. Since it sounds just like it did before they replaced the transmission, I tend to think it isn't the transmission. Either that or all of these transmissions make this irregular, intermittent rattling . . . but I haven't found any forum discussions to back this up.
As far as the clunk goes, since they returned it to me a few visits back (before replacing the transmission) and said it was the ABS self-check, I've heard much less of it. Sometimes not at all, sometimes very faintly. Another incidence which leads me to believe these guys aren't close. It almost seems like they accidently fixed it without even knowing.
Thanks for your correspondence, it's good therapy for me.