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Re: Has anyone had engine problems with their 2007 525 or 530? [tayl0rd]
by shipo
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Feb 14, 2007 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Feb 14, 2007 9:30 am)
I disagree. Buying a new car and then driving some number of miles on it means that the owner got use out of the car and that it is no longer new. If the engine (or any other major component for that matter) fails and the manufacturer replaces said engine, the owner is made whole. Taken to an extreme, I’ve been corresponding with the owner of a car built by another marque in the last few days; said car coughed up it's mill at the 30,000 mile mark and the owner felt cheated that only the engine was replaced instead of the whole car. I don't get it, 30,000 miles of service and then the car gets a factory remanufactured engine gets put in, what's not to like?
Said another way, if the owner of a car that has experienced a catastrophic failure of a major component gets a new car, it's more a matter of good will than anything else.
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Has anyone had engine problems with their 2007 525 or 530? [shipo]
by tayl0rd
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Feb 14, 2007 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Feb 14, 2007 9:59 am)
Look at it this way, shipo. Historically, cars that have had to have their engines replaced are never the same. Growing up, my dad had a couple engines replaced on a couple of cars. The cars were never the same. They didn't drive the same, tended to be very finicky, opened up a host of check engine lights and other electrical glitches, etc. Not to mention the hit it takes for resale/trade-in. Honestly, in your heart of hearts, would you want to buy a car that you know has a remanufactured engine? Most people wouldn't want to buy one, and most people wouldn't want to be stuck with owning one. I sure wouldn't. "What's next" would always be in the back of my mind. The slightest little unusual tick, bump, groan, whatever, would have me on edge and seeing dollar signs tumbling along the ground behind me.
That makes for a very unpleasant ownership.
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Re: Has anyone had engine problems with their 2007 525 or 530? [tayl0rd]
by shipo
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Feb 14, 2007 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Feb 14, 2007 10:11 am)
"Look at it this way, shipo. Historically, cars that have had to have their engines replaced are never the same. Growing up, my dad had a couple engines replaced on a couple of cars. The cars were never the same. They didn't drive the same, tended to be very finicky, opened up a host of check engine lights and other electrical glitches, etc."
Sorry, not buying. I've never seen any evidence to suggest that a factory reman engine is anything other than as good as a factory new engine. Other problems? Not buying that either.
"Not to mention the hit it takes for resale/trade-in. Honestly, in your heart of hearts, would you want to buy a car that you know has a remanufactured engine?"
A "Factory Remanufactured" engine? I'd buy it in a heartbeat. A "Rebuilt" engine? Probably not. The difference is that the Factory Reman is a known quantity, the Rebuilt is not. That and the fact that there are fewer miles on the engine than on the car means that, to me at least, it's a pretty good deal.
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Has anyone had engine problems with their 2007 525 or 530? [shipo]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Feb 14, 2007 (1:26 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Feb 14, 2007 10:18 am)
I don't think a reman engine hurts value unless it is a high performance car like a Viper or Corvette, and then maybe not....but what concerns me with a replacement engine is the trauma the car goes through when you gut it for the new engine. There are lots of wires, connectors, bolts, nuts, clips, etc. This would definitely worry me.
Regardless of our point of view, on a new car is definitely sucks to have to do this--even if it eventually turns out right. It just sours the experience from the get-go. I'm sure I'd get over it, but I'd grumble.
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Re: Has anyone had engine problems with their 2007 525 or 530? [Mr_Shiftright]
by cls1949
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Feb 14, 2007 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 14, 2007 1:26 pm)
I started this topic. I just heard from my friend with the bad engine in his 2007 525. He was just approved to turn his car back in to BMW.
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Re: Has anyone had engine problems with their 2007 525 or 530? [cls1949]
by pat HOST
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Feb 15, 2007 (4:46 am)
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Replying to: cls1949 (Feb 14, 2007 3:47 pm)
That's the replacement engine, right? What's the dealership doing for him?
This should be encouraging to jacquesl.
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Re: Has anyone had engine problems with their 2007 525 or 530? [pat]
by cls1949
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Feb 15, 2007 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: pat (Feb 15, 2007 4:46 am)
My friend first had his engine replaced. When the same problem came up he went back to the dealer. After some discussions, the dealer, and I suppose BMW and the leasing company, agreed to take the car back. I understand BMW offered my friend some money at the time the replacement engine was installed.
My friend says he will reconsider BMW in a few years; after they address these reliability issues.
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BMW AG Where are you What do you Think
by jacquesl
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Feb 15, 2007 (7:31 am)
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It would be interesting to know what's the official answer of BMW Germany about this.
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Re: Has anyone had engine problems with their 2007 525 or 530? [cls1949]
by sambo49
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Mar 05, 2007 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: cls1949 (Jan 28, 2007 12:52 pm)
I leased a 2007 525 xi in november 06. I had noticed the valve noise about 3 to 4 weeks ago but it sounds like it is getting progressively worse. It was very pronounced while warming up the car this morning.
I started reading the string of email messages by coincidence this evening and am not sure what to do. Is the pronounced valve lifter noise a sign of imminent failure? Should I take the car back to the dealer and ask for repairs or replacement? I would appreciate any information on this topic. Thanks!
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