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#8 of 47 More HCH vs. PRIUS by 1stpik Jul 04, 2007 (11:57 am)
The Prius tax credit likely won't apply this late in the year because Congress limits the full credit to 60,000 units. Once Toyota sells that many, the tax credit gets cut in half. So watch out for that.   Honda sells fewer than 60,000 HCHs every year, so every buyer gets the full $2,100 credit.   I just purchased the Civic a few months ago. I chose it over the Prius for the extra leg room and because I prefer the Civic's body style.   If Toyota has 0% for 24 months, that's pretty good. It would cost you about $950/month. Honda has 2.9% for 36 months. With zero down, it's $650/month. That's what I'm paying on my '07 without the optional navigation system (I didn't think it was worth $2,000).   Here's my latest mpg reading:   http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35956   That's mixed city/hwy driving, 65 mph highway speed, a/c all the time, and tires at 36 psi.   So you can definitely get EPA rated mileage from the HCH. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 04, 2007 2:06 pm) wannahybrid (Jul 10, 2007 8:10 pm)
#9 of 47 Re: More HCH vs. PRIUS [1stpik] by gagrice Jul 04, 2007 (2:06 pm)
Replying to: 1stpik (Jul 04, 2007 11:57 am) A little correction. The 60,000 in sales is a total for all hybrids sold by the automaker. in the case of Toyota it includes Lexus. Toyota had sold 60,000 early last year so was cut in half in September of 2006, and cut again this Spring. There will be no more tax credits for ToyLex hybrids, either now or after the 1st of September. It is not renewed each year.   You are correct that Honda has not sold 60,000 hybrids so they still qualify for the full incentive.
#10 of 47 Re: hch vs prius [caaz] by 46jimbo Jul 05, 2007 (10:28 am)
Replying to: caaz (Jul 04, 2007 9:00 am) Which car is quieter?   I don't know the Prius, but I own a 2006 HCH. I'm amazed at how quiet the motor is. One would think that a small 1300 cc engine would get very buzzy at high revs. But no, it's incredibly quiet and just purrs like a kitten. The regular Civic lets out a throaty roar when you floor the accelerator, but not the Hybrid.   There is, however, a fair amount of road noise that you hear, depending on the type of road surface. Sometimes it's pronounced, other times I don't notice it. Replies to this message: joseph42s (Sep 21, 2007 1:19 pm) pathstar1 (Sep 22, 2007 7:58 am) 46jimbo (Sep 23, 2007 2:25 pm) grumpy64505 (Sep 28, 2007 6:30 am)
#11 of 47 Re: HCH vs Toyota Prius [jdmcmah] by kath5 Jul 08, 2007 (11:57 am)
Replying to: jdmcmah (Jan 25, 2007 6:58 pm) If you do a lot of traveling, you might want to compare the trunk space between the two cars. My husband and I just traveled from Boston to Nashville in our HCH. We loved the car, the nav was great, but only one large suitcase fit in the trunk. It wasn't a problem for us, but if we wanted to travel with another couple it would not have worked. Our son has a Prius, which he loves, and the storage space is great.
#12 of 47 Kath5 by caaz Jul 10, 2007 (6:49 am)
Since you have a civic and your son a prius, which one is quieter...which one has more comfortable seats...and which one gets the best gas mileage?? Replies to this message: 1stpik (Jul 10, 2007 9:21 am)
#13 of 47 Re: Kath5 [caaz] by 1stpik Jul 10, 2007 (9:21 am)
Replying to: caaz (Jul 10, 2007 6:49 am) Both the Civic and the Prius emit 69 dBA 70 mph.   Seat comfort is subjective. Some people complain about the Civic's headrests, but I like them. I also like the extra leg room in the Civic.   Gas mileage is also subjective because driving style is a HUGE factor -- 20%-30% difference. But the Prius is rated 4 mpg better than the Civic Hybrid in combined city/hwy driving -- roughly 8% better.   So the choice comes down to a matter of personal preference, mostly on body styles. Besides the extra leg room, I chose the HCH because I preferred the way it looks ove the Prius. Others prefer the more 'techno' look of the Toyota.   However, the hybrid tax credit is another factor. Congress limits the credit on each model to 60,000 units per year. Honda sells fewer than that, so all HCH buyers get the full credit. But Toyota sells 100,000+ Priuses, so almost half the buyers get a reduced credit or no credit.   So a buyer would have to weigh that factor along with the sales price and financing offers between Honda and Toyota to determine the best deal.
#14 of 47 Re: More HCH vs. PRIUS [1stpik] by wannahybrid Jul 10, 2007 (8:10 pm)
Replying to: 1stpik (Jul 04, 2007 11:57 am) Honda has 2.9% for 36 months. With zero down, it's $650/month. That's what I'm paying on my '07 without the optional navigation system (I didn't think it was worth $2,000).   Is this true as of today? I have only seen special APR's for honda vehicles as described on edmunds rebates/incentives page, and it does not seem to mention any civics, let alone the hybrid.   Is there fairly predictable Honda sales activity during the July/August '08 model push and/or just before the new year?   Thanks much.
#15 of 47 press request by kirstie_h HOST Jul 11, 2007 (5:29 am)
A reporter would like to speak to current or past Honda hybrid owners that now own a Toyota Prius or will be switching to one in the future. Please respond to ctalatiedmunds.com no later than July 16, 2007 with your daytime contact information.
#16 of 47 Honda financing by 1stpik Jul 11, 2007 (5:43 pm)
I bought mine in May. I just checked hondacars.com, and I see that the Civic is no longer listed in the "special offers" section, so I guess that's over.   Honda may have discontinued the 2.9% financing because they had record sales of the Civic in May. No doubt, those sales were spurred by $3 gas along with low financing. Whether they offer it again at the end of the year probably depends on the price of gasoline.
#17 of 47 Plug-in Hybrid by rogerb46 Jul 13, 2007 (7:48 am)
I am very happy with my 2003 HCH, just coming on 50k and 40 MPG overall (mainly due to under-inflated tires for a long time - I had health issues and wasn't checking). At the time the Prius was more expensive, a longer wait, and didn't look like a "real car".   However I might consider a new Prius at this stage, since Toyota technology is capable of being modified to recharge by plugging-in. Haven't researched this thoroughly - apparently it is expensive, and possibly not even available right now. Also, the "look" has improved, and (I think) the price diff is about the same.   Leg-room is a biggy for me (I'm 6'2"), so will have to check it out. Replies to this message: pathstar1 (Jul 13, 2007 12:03 pm)

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