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HCH vs Toyota Prius

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Re: HCH vs Toyota Prius [jdmcmah] by catringos
Feb 26, 2008 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: jdmcmah (Jan 25, 2007 6:58 pm)

I've been torn between the two for a while myself. Here is my analysis:
 
The Prius has better acceleration (0-60 in 9.8s for the Prius vs. 11.7s for the HCH according to Consumer Reports).
 
The Prius is more fuel efficient (44 mpg overall for the Prius vs. 37 mpg overall for the HCH - again according to Consumer Reports).
 
Stability Control is not available on the HCH, but it optional on the non-base Prius models.
 
Prius has many more optionals available than the HCH does.
 
The HCH is a cleaner car according to the EPA SmartWay Ranking because the Prius produces slightly more pollution (http://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/Index.do).
 
Auxilary input for I-Pod and Cruise Control are standard for the HCH, but not for the base model of the Prius.
 
There is still a $1100 federal tax credit for the HCH, there is no longer a federal tax credit for the Prius.
 
I hope this helps you with your decision even though it hasn't helped me with mine yet...
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now that gas is $4/gal, Prius or Civic Hybrid by wistlo
May 20, 2008 (11:40 am)
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We are considering a new car to supplant our 2001 Civic EX. It's got 170,000 miles and has had a flukey engine sensor fail twice six months apart, unfortunately both times in the presence of in-laws. They are are Not Happy that their month-old granddaughter is traveling around in that car.
 
I'm 6'5 and have sat briefly in both cars. CIvic seemed to have a smidge more front legroom, but as with all cars, driving position is knees up for me. Prius seems to win the trunk-luggage space hands (and literally, rear seats) down.
 
Local dealers (New Orleans area) are quoting around MSRP for Honda, and MSRP plus $1000-4000 for Prius. Prius has 3 month wait, put $500 down and expect a car in 3 months. Civic is catch as catch can, and all Civics have 1.9% financing available for another month or so.
 
Also, I was told no new 2008 Honda Fit orders are being taken, but not yet taking any for the new 2009 model.
#30 of 47
Re: non-stop producing [1stpik] by seiker0808
May 20, 2008 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: 1stpik (Jul 24, 2007 11:59 am)

The deal breaker for me was that I couldn't get the HCH in leather. I really wanted leather. So I am getting a Prius with leather at the end of this week. But I did really like how the HCH drove.
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Re: HCH vs Toyota Prius [jdmcmah] by Frungy
May 23, 2008 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: jdmcmah (Jan 25, 2007 6:58 pm)

I'm in the north bay area of California (sonoma county) and took a look at a Prius and Civic Hybrid. I liked the Prius for its trunk space and fold down seats, and disliked it for its terrible rear window- there's seriously a bar right across the middle, and the window is already tiny. I liked the Civic because it's just like a regular Civic for its feel, and disliked it because it has little cargo room and the seats do not fold down in the back. I liked how both had pretty good standard features. However, the dealbreaker for me was the pricetag. While the MSRP for both cars appears to be similar on Edumnds, Toyota was charging me 23k base price without tax for option 2, and no special financing (so 5-6%). Honda had the civic hybrid for 23k out the door (with tax, DMV etc), and is now offering 2-3% financing, AND there's still the 1k tax credit. It was a no brainer for me... it boiled down to 24k total for the civic vs. something upwards of 28-29k for the prius after financing/tax credits.
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Re: non-stop producing [seiker0808] by stevedebi
May 23, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: seiker0808 (May 20, 2008 4:52 pm)

"The deal breaker for me was that I couldn't get the HCH in leather. I really wanted leather. "
 
I'm pretty sure that a dealer could add leather for around 2K, and it would be a better job than most factory leather. My Honda dealer offered it to me with my 2003 CR-V, and it would have been included in the 36K/3 year warranty.
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Re: HCH vs Toyota Prius [catringos] by jcook123
Jul 29, 2008 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: catringos (Feb 26, 2008 5:50 pm)

Nice Analysis, thanks
 
Here are a few additional items to ad to your list that I found on an autoMedia article called Civic vs Prius: Compact Hybrid Comparison
 
* The EPA considers the Prius a Midsize Hatchback vs the Civic as a Compact Sedan. This is based on interior volume.
#34 of 47
Re: HCH vs Toyota Prius [Frungy] by speedboy
Aug 06, 2008 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: Frungy (May 23, 2008 12:14 pm)

Compliments to Frungy for this simple yet important analysis. I too went through the same dilemma recently. Looks are a matter of personal choice. Although I travel more often and require a car with better boot space the trade off was with the price. The guys at hendrickcars did a good job in explaining the cost difference. I am glad I bought the HCH.
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Prius over HCH by dapastaguy
Aug 19, 2008 (11:19 am)
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I have the Prius, my co oworker the Honda. Both behave similarly as far as fuel mileage and handling. 4 things make the Prius the better car:
1. The ability to run up to 40 mph on the battery. Today I traveled 1.75 miles mostly on battery, with the MFD reading 99.9 mpg. Of course I was on the side roads, and was running 25 mph BUT it was still an amazing feat
2. The MFD - amazing. Even in my package 2 it is an outstanding feature.
3. The Smart Key and the HomeLink mirror. No more house keys for me! I still need 1 to get into the office but I could laways just sit on the porch and wait for a co worker to show up, but they usually are there after 9, and I get there around 8:15.
4. The amount of interior space. I traded a 2001 Ford Sport Trac for the Prius and I now have more rear passenger room. The HCH is very small feeling inside, and the truck is also small.
 
Get the Prius
#36 of 47
Re: Prius over HCH [dapastaguy] by targettuning
Aug 21, 2008 (4:09 am)
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Replying to: dapastaguy (Aug 19, 2008 11:19 am)

Regarding the ability of the Prius to run on the electric motor only. We rented a Prius over the Memorial day week end and part of my travels included a (admittedly downhill) run on a very rural 2 lane road during which we traveled between 9 and 10 miles on the electric motor alone. Even when the strictly downhill part ended and the road leveled off we continued to drive on the electric motor an additional 2-3 miles on this same rural road. I was impressed using NO gasoline for probably 12-13 miles.
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Re: Prius over HCH [targettuning] by mickeyrom
Aug 21, 2008 (4:17 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Aug 21, 2008 4:09 am)

The Prius is a totally different animal.I have read very few complaints about it unlike the Honda which seems to be ovewhelmed with problems.
We have friends who have driven their Prius over 100K miles without a single repair.

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