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Honda Civic Hybrid vs Toyota Prius

47 messages,  Last post on Sep 01, 2008 at 2:20 PM

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Re: Prius over HCH [mickeyrom] by hunter44102
Aug 21, 2008 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 21, 2008 4:17 am)

If I could take a Prius and put a Civic body on it, I would buy it.
 
It is godawful ugly in my opinion.
 
Also, to replace the battery in a Prius, you need like $5000, so you may be problem free longer than the HCH, but if you plan on keeping it past the warranty, you better start a saving account for the battery. The Civic battery is more like $1800
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Re: Prius over HCH [hunter44102] by kdhspyder
Aug 28, 2008 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: hunter44102 (Aug 21, 2008 7:19 am)

This is absolutely erroneous. It was a fear back in 2001 and 2002, but it's been disproven nearly 1 million times over now.
 
Seriously.
 
It may even turn out that the battery and hybrid components are the most reliable parts of the vehicle needing no replacement for any normal lifetime. As of today the Prius is the No 1 most reliable family vehicle in CR's hierarchy ( the Camry Hybrid is No 4 ). The Prius is also the most reliable vehicle in its class in JD Power's annual survey.
 
It would not get these rankings if battery replacements were an issue.
 
Finally there is the most validating fact of all......................EVERY vehicle manufacturer is now getting into hybrid production because they've seen Toyota's great sales and the bulletproof reliability and simplicity of the technology. The competing vehicle makers wouldn't be investing $Billions if there was a substantial risk.
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Re: Prius over HCH [kdhspyder] by stevedebi
Aug 28, 2008 (4:51 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Aug 28, 2008 3:08 pm)

"It may even turn out that the battery and hybrid components are the most reliable parts of the vehicle needing no replacement for any normal lifetime."
 
I'm more concerned with other aspects of the Prius creating failure points. If the main display dies, the Prius won't start. That is an expensive part.
 
Does the Prius have a model without the center display? I know that the FEH has it both with or without, including the higher end models, if desired.
 
That makes a big difference. If my radio goes on in the FEH, I don't have radio. If the center display goes out in a Prius, I don't drive.
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Re: Prius over HCH [stevedebi] by targettuning
Aug 29, 2008 (5:12 am)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Aug 28, 2008 4:51 pm)

Aside from the fact that I have never seen any accounts of the display failing on the Prius I'm not sure it won't start if it did fail. Sure, the radio operation controls, AC operation controls, and various driver information pages are displayed on the main center display screen but it probably would start/drive without it being operational. Once again, I don't quote any of this as fact but opinion. No, one cannot get a Prius without the display and on the Civic the "with and without" display you mention is the GPS/navigation system and has nothing to do with the operation of the car. You can also get this as a page on the Prius' display and as with the Honda it is an option.
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Re: Prius over HCH [stevedebi] by kdhspyder
Aug 29, 2008 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Aug 28, 2008 4:51 pm)

Sorry that's not accurate. It has nothing to do with the operation of the vehicle.
 
Over on PriusChat there are a few limited reports of the MFD failing but it's just a small computer screen that goes out. It has nothing to do with the running of the vehicle.
 
Yes Toyota would like to replace them a premium prices but there are numerous sources from the net to obtain a replacement for several hundred dollars then it's just 'plug and play'.
 
Another unfounded misconception put to rest.
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Re: Prius over HCH [targettuning] by stevedebi
Aug 29, 2008 (1:26 pm)
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Replying to: targettuning (Aug 29, 2008 5:12 am)

"No, one cannot get a Prius without the display and on the Civic the "with and without" display you mention is the GPS/navigation system and has nothing to do with the operation of the car."
 
Take a look at my message, I was speaking of the FEH.
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Re: Prius over HCH [kdhspyder] by stevedebi
Aug 29, 2008 (1:37 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Aug 29, 2008 8:32 am)

"Sorry that's not accurate. It has nothing to do with the operation of the vehicle.
  
Over on PriusChat there are a few limited reports of the MFD failing but it's just a small computer screen that goes out. It has nothing to do with the running of the vehicle. "
 
Thanks for the update. My information was outdated.
 
It is good to know that the MFD can fail without impacting the HSD.
 
But just to confirm, I'm not talking about the screen going blank, but about the electronics behind the screen. Are you saying that you can pull the MFD out of a Prius and it will still run?
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Re: Prius over HCH [stevedebi] by kdhspyder
Aug 29, 2008 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Aug 29, 2008 1:37 pm)

Yes it's just a computer screen. In fact you do lose the touch screen interface for the audio and HVAC and Navi if it's there.
 
However the redundant controls on the steering wheel can still control the audio and the HVAC even without the MFD being active.
 
There is in fact a button to turn off the screen if some drivers find it annoying.
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Navigation cost on the Prius by fseaver
Sep 01, 2008 (8:50 am)
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I am curious just how much is the cost for Navigation on the Prius?
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Re: Navigation cost on the Prius [fseaver] by kdhspyder
Sep 01, 2008 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: fseaver (Sep 01, 2008 8:50 am)

It's about $800. The difference between Package #4 and Package #5.

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