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#4542 of 5282 Re: 2006 Toyota Land Cruiser WITH SPOILER??????? [flyfish4life]
Jun 09, 2005 (11:19 am)
Haven't seen one yet, but I did get some interesting info WRT '06 and '07 model years. Was at the dealer a short while ago and ran into the Area Tech Rep (long time friend of mine) who is very well connected and usually has good gouge. He said that the reason the VVTi engine didn't come with the '05 model year was EPA certification issues. Apparantly the engine has to be certified with the specific vehicle and Toy couldn't get it certified in time for the '05 model year. Now, here's where it gets interesting. Minor changes (as we know) for '06 and then in '07 the LC will remain the same. Then probably the big re-design as an '08. He said that he's been told the LC will continue here because Toy knows it has a loyal base of LC enthusiasts. However, he said that after '06 the LX 470 is history and will be replaced by a luxury version of the Seqouia. This makes me think that instead of doing an '07 LC intro, Toy will wait until it has the hybrid available? I've been told that hybrids will be availale across the line by '08, which would explain why we will potentially have a ten model year run on the 100 series? Hmmmm
Sure hope this info turns out to be true. Could end up being better all the way around?
Jun 09, 2005 (1:59 pm)
Hi, I have a 2005 LC which i bought for my retirement car. I am thinking about buying a 24 foot travel trailer and it weighs around 5000lbs. My question is that like I said...this is my retirement car and so I want to keep it for a long time. So, if i start towing, will it effective the longevity of this Toyota vehicle because I know that it will stress the engine out and it will work harder, but i only plan to tow it about 3-4 times a year and so I am wondering and pondering...
#4544 of 5282 Re: Data to Chew On [another_person]
Jun 09, 2005 (7:22 pm)
I have to agree with you on all your points. I guess the only response that I can make that makes any sense is that rugged quality costs.
#4545 of 5282 Re: 2006 Toyota Land Cruiser WITH SPOILER??????? [steelcruiser]
Jun 11, 2005 (7:48 am)
Toyota is going to bring to market a "tarted up" Seqouia to the high profile "look at mine" SUV segment? Bad mistake in my estimation. I do not see how Toyota can take a $45k vehicle and upgrade it to the extent that it will compete in the high end Luxury SUV market.
In my view the LX 470 succsessfuly competed with the likes of Range Rover, because it combined the world class off road capabilities of Land Cruiser with the Luxury enhancements of Lexus. Seqouia, though fine SUV that it is, will probably not attract this market segment, no matter how much lipstick Toyota puts on it.
Toyota as acorporate entity has always been a little strange, in my opinion, but this could rank as an all time high bizarre move, if it is in fact true.
#4546 of 5282 Re: 2006 Toyota Land Cruiser WITH SPOILER??????? [mgreene]
Jun 11, 2005 (8:39 am)
Couldn't agree more. Just passing on info from someone that's on the "inside". It's probably a little hard for Toy to take the LC/LX to the same perceived luxury level as RR with the Sequoia in their mix?
I didn't get to talk with the guy long enough to get any more details, but my take was that Lexus would have the perked up Seqouia and Toy keeps the LC. It seems that things that have been in the LX, have a way of showing up in the LC. Such is the case this year (2006) with the height adjustable suspension. The rumor of LC going to be a Lexus only has been circulating for quite a while. As we only get one “trim” option here, I suppose the badging was an issue.
Guess this is something we’ll just have to keep watching!
#4547 of 5282 I am sure that this has been
Jun 11, 2005 (6:43 pm)
posted earlier, so, if it has, just refer me to the series of posts to get my answer...
What are the real differences between the TLC and the LX470? Is either better than another, or is it just an Explorer/Mountaineer but with a classier vehicle? Are they really THAT well made, or are you owners just trying to psychologically justify the expense in your minds? What are the best features of each, and what are the worst features/complaints of each? Knowing what you now know, would you buy that year and model again, or would you seek out a cheaper SUV?
When the time comes, I will be looking at 2006 Explorer/Mountaineer, 2005/6 Nissan Pathfinder, 2006 Jeep Commander, and 2000-2003 TLC/LX470.
Last question...what were the years of the Lexus LX450, prior to the 470, and would you consider that as a more economical vehicle, or did it have any special problems to deal with, possibly solved by the upgrade to the 470.
I do not intend to tow much, as I have a Dodge Ram for that, but what I want is an SUV with part-time 4WD, so I can engage 4WD only when I want it, to go over hills, mud, snow (rarely)...do NOT want AWD...and only need 1st and 2nd row seating, rear will be for 1-2 dogs...
Thanks for any help...
#4548 of 5282 Re: I am sure that this has been [marsha7]
Jun 11, 2005 (7:40 pm)
Sounds like neither the LC nor the LX is for you. Both have full-time 4WD.
#4549 of 5282 Re: I am sure that this has been [marsha7]
Jun 12, 2005 (5:38 am)
I'm not going to go find the post, but the major differences between the LX/LC is the level of Luxury. The LX is quieter, has more wood, and depending on the year, more options (nav, memory, sound). It also has the air suspension, which the new 06 LC has now.
The 450 became the 470 in 98, and knowing what I know now, and after having my 2000 TLC for 5 years now, I'd probably still would have bought the same SUV. The only reason I wouldn't get it would be if gas prices were to go past $3 ($1.20 back in the days)
Interms of an SUV without full time four and third row, an eairlier LC or LX450 might be what you're looking for.
#4550 of 5282 Re: I am sure that this has been [marsha7]
Jun 12, 2005 (10:24 am)
"interms of an SUV without full time four and third row, an eairlier LC or LX450 might be what you're looking for."
Actually, all Landcruisers (since 1991) and LX450/LX470 (since '96) have been full-time four-wheel drive. If you are looking for part-time four-wheel arrangement, I'd recommend V6 4Runner
LC/LX Upside: An extremely reliable and well-made vehicle. But looking at your needs, it seeme to be over-built.
LC/LX Downside: Poor gas mileage and relatively high cost of repairs if something does breakdown. Most people here are do-it-at-home people so likely won't realize the high cost of ownership but those who are going to be taking it in for repairs will attest to high repair tab. But since repairs are rare, the cost of ownership could be a wash.
#4551 of 5282 2006 Toyota Land Cruiser WITH SPOILER??????? [mgreene] by
Jun 12, 2005 (11:12 am)
I think we are looking at this issue as TLC/LX enthusiasts. However, at Toyota Corporate, the bean counters have a say too. TLC has a great history, heritage etc. That's not enough for the Average person to shell out 60K for a Toyota truck. From a marketing/profitability/cost perspective, I think it makes sense for the 2008 Tundra/Sequoia/LC/LX to share the same platform as Nissan has done with the Armada/Titan/Xterra/Pathfinder/QX56 etc. They all share the same basic chasis with modifications. I will still trade in my 2002 TLC the last model year TLC be it in 2007 or 2008 and hold on to it for life. Landcruiser or bust ....