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Toyota Land Cruiser, SUV
Jul 02, 2004 (6:55 pm)
I just test drove a 2000 Land Cruiser. It is from an unaffiliated used car dealer (specializing in luxury vehicles coming from lease returns) and has 84,000 miles on it with one previous owner. It is advertised for an uncharacteristically low (in this area, anyway) $25,900 with room for negotiation. That's what 98 and 99 models are usually selling for around here.
I did notice a few things that might explain the price, most notably:
1. At its mileage, the big 90k service is looming.
2. The tires are near the end.
3. The brakes make the whole vehicle vibrate considerably and run very hot (pads/rotors?).
4. (Not sure if this is normal or not) When I was going up a hill at about 30 mph, there was a very slight vibration and a definite high pitch whining noice coming from underneath the vehicle (transfer case/differential?).
I'm no mechanic by any stretch of the imagination, so I'm thinking about taking it in for an inspection. However, any thoughts or comments by the boardwould be greatly appreciated. Also, is it a good idea to take it to a Toyota dealer for an inspection, or are they just going to trash talk it to sell me one of their used ones (for $5-8k more)?
#3838 of 5282 Re: Buying an LC [seattlecruiser #3835]
Jul 03, 2004 (8:41 am)
In my opinion, take it to a dealer for a pre-purchase inspection. It will cost $150-250, but will save you from overlooking some potential problems. If they have any used LC's for sale, use the opportunity to compare them to what you are looking at, compare estimated costs to get your proposed vehicle up to par with other comparable used LC's, and make your decision from there. Heve the inspecting dealership give you an estimate of all needed repair and maintenance items to aid your decision.
If they do have comparable used LC's for 5-8K more, that may end up being the way to go. Just a thought.
Have you owned a Landcruiser before?
#3839 of 5282 Re: Buying an LC [hank14 #3836]
Jul 03, 2004 (9:14 am)
Thanks for the advice. I have never owned one before, just been following this board for months. So I'm not familiar with the sounds that are supposed to be there and the ones that aren't. But I do know something isn't right with the brakes, the whole dashboard was shaking when applying the breaks.
I think I'll spend the day test driving a few more to get a better idea of what they're supposed to feel and sound like and then take my favorite to the dealership for an inspection.
#3840 of 5282 Re: Buying an LC [seattlecruiser #3837]
Jul 03, 2004 (10:29 am)
With the brakes, you can be assured they at least need new rotors (don't have them turned) and pads while they're at it. The noise from the drivetrain is not normal, but may be related to lack of lubrication of the driveshafts. With brakes and tires, you'll spend at least $1,000.
Like any vehicle, knowing the past service history is very valuable. I would look for one with complete service records.
Good luck with your search.
#3841 of 5282 Re: Buying an LC [hank14 #3838]
Jul 03, 2004 (8:25 pm)
I drove a few more today, and the 2000 seems to have problems. The 99s I drove felt and sounded quite a bit smoother overall, so I'm putting the 2000 into the "if-it-sounds-too-good-to-be-true-it-usually-is" category. Regarding service records, I haven't seen a single one that had them. Does anyone know if Toyota has a central database where they could call those up by VIN (at least the major ones)? Also, all I have looked at so far were lease returns, am I correct to assume that Toyota requires their leasees to bring it in for every service? (I know I had to with my Mercedes M-Class.)
#3842 of 5282 Re: Buying an LC [seattlecruiser #3839]- Servicing Issues.
Jul 04, 2004 (7:57 am)
I have had a Fj80 since new in 1991, and serviced it at a Toyota Dealer for years, however I was ripped off regularly as my dealer charged for service stuff that highly tuned cars need but LCs dont. Dealers charge a fixed hourly fee even if they actually take half the time or dont do anything (its not on the LC chart but on a Supra chart for example). After my dealer took three failed attempts to repack my birfield/steering knuckles I switched to an Indy and have never looked back. This means that my records arent 100% on a computer, and as I am not a great record keeper I dont have all my records - but my machime has been regularly serviced - at way way less cost than my "expert" dealer! I suspect that Toyota mechanics dont all have a lot of LC experience compared to say Camrys.
#3843 of 5282 Recommendations for Private Wrench
Jul 05, 2004 (7:06 am)
Lookign for names (if any) of independent TLC service folks in Eastern PA/NJ area ('01 V8).
If not there, someone somewhat near who is well worth the drive. Thanks.
#3844 of 5282 TLC2000 CD PLAYER
Jul 05, 2004 (12:48 pm)
My Land Cruiser Compact disc player is not working. Two days ago I tried to play CD#6, got the Error 3 message, then it just quit working. It does not play the CD, does not eject the CD, and has been staying like this until now. Before I bring it to the dealer I am thinking about replacing the CD receiver with a newer one that can play MP3 songs too. Can any one tell me which brand and model is the most compatible with the existing system. Thanks.
Jul 05, 2004 (2:18 pm)
you have a 1999 LC and you want to get rid of the rear seats?
If I were you I would save them until you plan on resaling the Car, then you can use them as leverage for more pay