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Toyota Land Cruiser, SUV
Jun 27, 2003 (12:51 pm)
OK Steelcruiser, looks like you're correct. Name your poison pardner.
If Toyota wants to kill the Golden Goose that helped build the company, then so be it. I just find it hard to believe these rumors. The Land Cruiser has been winning awards, Edmunds Editor's Pick, and God knows what else acolades from auto critics. It simply does NOT make sense to kill off an extremely popular model that took many years to develop a rock solid reputation. This has me scratching my head...go figure.
Jun 27, 2003 (3:40 pm)
James--I'm all the way over on the "left" coast, so collecting will be hard =)
My spin on the LC here is......lots of rumors are saying no more, but these same rumors were around toward the end of the 80 series run and we got the 100 series. And as you say, why would Toy/Lexus get rid of such a legendary vehicle? They sell lots of them worldwide, so it's not like they've got to re-tool to make just a few for the US. My hunch is, we'll see a next generation LC here with a bigger engine, side air bags, nav sys, 18" wheels, rear viewing TV camera etc, etc as an '05 or '06 model. They may dribble in a few 100s in '05 and make the new series an '06?.
If the LC sales were so lousy, I think we'd be seeing some LC advertising and incentives. Don't know about your area, but here in CA, I've never seen any ads ala RR for the LC. Toward the end of the model year, I've occasionally seen 1 or 2 LCs discounted in a dealer's ad, but that's pretty rare.
Another thing, I don't think that Toy would just give up the luxury SUV market to RR. I've heard talk of Toy splitting off their truck/SUV lines for separate sales facilities. To me that "FJ" concept will be another vehicle in the Toy lineup.
I'm very guilty of inserting my own wishes here, but I hope I'm right and we'll see a next generation LC.
Maybe the marketing "problem" here is the fact that to some shopping for a Toy SUV, there isn't anything that separates the LC from the larger Sequoia?
#2837 of 5282 Tire Rotation
Jun 29, 2003 (12:46 pm)
With regards to tire rotation, what advantage is there to a 5 tire pattern vs. a 4 tire pattern, other than approx. 25% longer interval between replacing tires? My 99 LC recommends the 5 tire pattern. What do you do if you have to replace a blown or bad tire with, say 10-25K miles, since they should all match? Would you then go to the 4 tire rotation pattern?
Also, has anyone tried the Bridgestone Revo A/T tires? I am looking for a more aggressive off road pattern than the Michelin LTX M/S or Cross Terrains for snow, sand, and mud in the mountains. Tirerack doesn't give many other optioins. What is the equivalent tire size for the LC in the standard measurements (ex.: 33 X 10.5 X 16) to the stock 265/70/16? Thanks.
Jun 29, 2003 (6:28 pm)
Steelcruiser, I too hope you're correct on the future of the Cruiser here in the US. How are the prices on Land Cruisers in CA? In my immediate area, we have a smaller dealership that gets in one Cruiser every blue moon, and doesn't deal much on their vehicles. I doubt I'll be buying another Toyota from them, but at least their Service Dept. has been good to me over the years.
Jun 29, 2003 (6:35 pm)
I do a 5 tire rotation to keep the tires roughly the same size. I don't want to put a new tire on after a flat and have the diameter be much larger than the other 4. It tends to make my locker and transfer case upset. It gets more interesting as I'm running directional tires.
Stock tire size is ~31x10.5.
Jun 29, 2003 (9:52 pm)
James. Prices here are pretty steady, in that you can find a particular year is generally within a fairly standard range. e.g. 00s 30 to 33, 01s 34 to 38, 02s, 39to 43 etc. 94 to 97s 9 to 19 or 20K. This a generalization based on asking prices that I see in the LA Times. Again, LCs seem to be in their own "world", as ads for new or used ones are (relatively) few. LCs have (IMHO) a strong and loyal following. New or used, they don't seem to last long. The market, at least here, is very strong for them within the context of the "loyalists". Hopefully, the Toy marketing types know and realize that. My impression is that LC fans tend to snub newer LC models--at first, then to embrace them near or at the end of the model run. The 80 series is becoming more and more popular with long time LC people as they learn of their capabilities. I suppose the 100 series will be getting more attention now that it's almost at the end of its run.
Jun 30, 2003 (6:27 am)
My manual calls for 90w for the diffs, all I see at the local part stores is 80-90 or 75-90... Do I need to buy from Toyota? I even went on the Amsoil site and found 80-90 only. Any help would be great, thanks.
Oct 11, 2002 (7:35 am)
Bryan--I've got Valvoline DuraBlend 80-90 in my diffs, Valvoline SynPower 75-90 in the TCase, and DuraBlend 5-30 for the engine.
Jun 30, 2003 (7:39 am)
Thanks Steelcruiser, I guess pure 90 isn't out there...
Jun 30, 2003 (8:07 am)
Hank, I think a 5 tire rotation is the better way to go: if you blow one then go to a 4 tire until replacement time. I wish I had gone to a 5 tire from the start, actually. A recent shredding of a Perelli Scorpion with only 25,000 on the set necessitated a complete set (4) change over. Oh well, rocks happen. Am now running the AT Revo's but they are still too new for me to provide any feedback of value. Heading to the San Juans and then Moab in a few weeks and I'll have something to say about them after that. Hopefully something good.
BTW: 275-70/16's are stock. You can run up to 285-75's without any suspension changes. No reason to go to flotations since there are quite a few decent off-road tires now available in LT metric.