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Toyota Land Cruiser, SUV
#2412 of 5282 Saddam loves the LC too...
Feb 24, 2003 (10:51 am)
In early 1993, Saddam Husseinís ultimate secret weapon was a Toyota Land Cruiser that had been meticulously packed and wired with enough plastic explosives to make the Oklahoma City truck bomb look like a firecracker by comparison. It was sent to detonate near President Bush when he and family arrived to view the recently liberated Kuwait.
Luckily for Bush, the Kuwaiti military intercepted the LC, not too mention that Bush's plane was a day late due to damage to a wing.
#2413 of 5282 What's the deal?
Feb 24, 2003 (5:15 pm)
The most succinct way I can put it is this: There is no other vehicle that combines luxury and off-road performance like the LC. There are more luxurious vehicles and a very few that are more capable off road, but none that combine the two so well.
#2414 of 5282 Then there is history
Feb 25, 2003 (9:05 am)
LC's are about the only vehicle than you can find in every corner of the planet. Whether you are in the boonies of Australia, Africa, Asia, India, or the Middle East, there are all sorts and vintages of LC's driving around. For many people, the only other conveyance that will get you from here to there is a mule or camel. Heck, LC's have even crossed Antartica.
Its history, and well deserved reputation for incredible reliability in the harshest of environments, have made the LC the vehicle of choice wherever the pavement ends.
Also note that Landcruiser is not a single model but a range of models in most parts of the world. In the US we only get the most up-scale version and the 4Runner (which is the LC 90 elsewhere).
#2416 of 5282 Why a Land Cruiser?
Feb 25, 2003 (1:09 pm)
To put it simply, build quality and strenght of components. Check out resale values, even on higher mileage vehicles. They hold their value because of the superior build quality not becasue it says LC on the outside.
Have you ever looked under a LC and then looked under the lesser vehicles? The LC is for real and always has been, even the 100 series is much beefier than anyting out there except maybe an Hummer H1. That is why it is so sad that the LC may go away and that the top of the line Toyota will be a Sequioa and sme goes for the LX470. It will probably be a sequioa with a 5.5 liter v8, imagine the margin on that vs a LC with lexus badging.
Watch and see what happens with the H2 (tahoe based suv), it is beefy however the build quailty is not there and they will begin to depreciate very quickly. Give me a 100 with front and rear arb lockers and the hummer h2 better get out of the way and I will still be in a LC and I will still have the quality to go along with the offroad ability. And it will hold it's value like a gold brick. Not to mention superior road manners and cargo capacity.
'99 LC with stuff
#2417 of 5282 Why the Landcruiser
Feb 25, 2003 (4:24 pm)
I appreciate everyone's input so far. I am beginning to understand the reason for the popularity of the LC. I am presently kicking myself for not buying a '95 creampuff LC 18 months ago. Should have, but opted for a '98 Avalon for my wife instead. It has not been that good of an experience, but I'll leave that to another discussion. The one thing I know, after 7 years of driving an old F150 2wd, I do not like getting stuck, be it mud, snow, sand, ice, steep inclines, etc. I just hope the old Ford will hold out until I can find another affordable (for me) LCruiser. BTW, I did not know the Forerunner was a part of the LC family.
#2418 of 5282 No More Cruisers?
Feb 26, 2003 (6:24 am)
fj100 when is Toyota planning on this model change? I may be back in the car buying game if it is soon. Thanks
#2419 of 5282 Reply to 2416
Feb 26, 2003 (7:02 am)
I read in a magazine it will be in the 2004/2005 timeframe. I only buy used Cruisers so I know I have up to at least 2003 Model that will be the real deal.
It will be a sad day. However they bring out a tacoma based small Land Cruiser and get back to their roots. This was shown at the Detroit auto show. It was ok, I did not like the swing doors for the back doors like the tundra. EVerything else was pretty cool. My wife thought it was ugly.
Feb 26, 2003 (9:30 am)
You guys have seen the next Cruiser haven't you? Its on Toyota's web site. http://www.toyota.com/html/shop/look_ahead/ Click on the FJ Cruiser. The era of the big, luxury Cruiser may be about over.
Feb 26, 2003 (10:05 am)
Don't ask me why but the cabin area reminds me of an Element at first blush. Looks like you could add suicide doors easily enough.
And it's probably just the paint job, but overall it looks "squat" with high clearance. Wonder how the visibility is going to be?
I think I like it