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#1999 of 5282 This was posted in another Toy topic
Sep 22, 2002 (12:14 pm)
but I also wish to ask it here...the 2003 4Runner, Land Cruiser and GX470, from what we have seen, seem to be quite similar, and feel free to correct any misperceptions I may have...what are the pros and cons of each one??? It seems that altho the Land Cruiser has a long term reputation, it seems to be the worst of both worlds...the apparent cost of the Lexus, but without any of the "nice stuff and courtesies" that come with a Lexus (read the Lexus boards and all they talk about is the level of customer service as compared with an "ordinary" Toyota)...any comments would be appreciated...while you're at it, is the Sequoia similar to the above, and where does it fit in...are they not all "full size" SUVs???
Sep 24, 2002 (10:46 am)
Idling rough/low is normal after the battery is disconnected which may be the case after the dealer is working on the electricals. This is because the memory of the engine computer is purged with no power. Then it runs on defaults for a half hour or so until the memory is rebuilt. If this was not the case, check the rubber tube from the air cleaner to the engine for cracks - common for this age. Completely remove it and then carefully check the bellows areas for cracks by flexing it. They get hard with age and rough handling during air cleaner changes eventually cracks them and admits air downstream of the airflow meter so the engine gets improper signals.
On the engine "flaring" between 1 and 2, this is again a simple issue. The item above may also impact this a bit. However, there's a cable to the transmission from the throttle which tells the tranny clutches how fast to operate. The cable stretches over time and the tranny "thinks" you're at a low throttle when you're actually at mid throttle and lets the automatic tranny clutches slip more than is appropriate. The cure is simple. Where this cable's housing mounts to the throttle assembly, it is secured with a threaded rod and a pair of lock nuts. Simply loosen the lock nuts and your goal is to move the cable housing AWAY from the sheetmetal plate it mounts through about the thickness of one of the lock bolts. Then resecure it. I'd also have the tranny fluid changed out as slippage can cause a little extra debris in the fluid that's now in there. This is always a good idea anyhow as the hugely overbuilt tranny you have is a bit clunky but durable, however fixing it is astronomically expensive. $50 worth of tranny service is money well spent.
If it's never been done, cleaning the throttle body/throttle valve will also dramatically smooth out many tranny foibles on this truck. It can be done with a toothbrush and Fuel Injection intake cleaner (Carb Cleaner is too harsh) on the truck or the dealer will be glad to take your $300 to remove and clean it.
Sep 25, 2002 (12:54 pm)
The Baby Land Cruiser is here!
The 2003 4 runner offers a new 240 horse/283 ft.lb V6 as standard, and the 4.7 liter(with 5 speed auto) as an option, and comes with downhill assist, uphill start assist, electronic brake force distribution, optional rear air suspension, torsen center differential with a full lock mode, and full time 4 wheel drive on the V8 model.
Finally, a less expensive and smaller land cruiser!!
Sep 26, 2002 (9:56 am)
Thanks for the advice.
The Land Cruiser is still at the dealer. They drove it for 3 days before they could get it to "act up". Without looking at the engine, they recommend a new transmission $5700. We are going to pick it up, and will try a few other things before resorting to that. We don't really trust this dealer, as he is not really a Toyota dealer, but primarily sells Chevrolet, and some Toyotas. Unfortunately we have to drive at least 2 hours to get to a large city. Can anyone recommend a dealer with a good service department in South Georgia, or North Florida?
Sep 26, 2002 (1:54 pm)
I've been at the LandCruiser thing for a long time, and even Toyota dealers know little about the Cruiser. Nothing against Toyota's excellent dealer body, but it has always been a limited production vehicle, and their rugged construction means they're rarely in for major work. You're really asking for a hosing at a dealer like you described - he's clueless.
For $5700, I'll fly both you and your wife to Cancun for a week, pay for my flight to your house, spend 2 hours with your Cruiser and STILL have enough left over for a nice 2 week vacation for my family over Christmas. You're talking about a $4 can of throttle body spray, an old toothbrush, a $3 bottle of liquid graphite, $12 worth of tranny fluid quarts, a piece of duct tape if that tube I mentioned is cracked, and a pair of wrenches and socket set.
If you've changed the tranny fluid at least once every 50,000 miles and the truck has not been abused beyond belief then your A442F transmission is just fine. You simply cannot kill it. That transmission was only used in '93 and '94 and was taken from a 30,000lb GVW city bus Toyota builds. It is a full-on commercial duty transmission that is quite literally 5 times as heavy as it needs to be in your 6000lb truck. So don't let anyone tell you the tranny's shot. In '95, Toyota beefed up another transmission, which replaced this behemoth until the 80 series ended. It was the A343, I believe.
My '93 has towed an overweight boat trailer all over the US, has 120,000 on it and shifts today just like it did the day I drove it off the showroom. It's always been a little clunky as that massive gearbox tries to masquerade as a smooth light duty passenger vehicle transmission and it often betrays its heritage.
I could go on, but you get the idea. Where will I be flying to, by the way?
Sep 26, 2002 (4:14 pm)
In regard to your lock problem - I've had a few alarms installed in my cars in the past. When ever I have a problem with one, after checking the "clicker" battery, I climb under the dash and check the after market connections. I have found that the "factory trained" alarm installers either wrap the connections together with tape or sometimes crimp them - but horribly. In other words check the wiring and ground.
#2005 of 5282 to idahodoug re transmissions
Sep 26, 2002 (6:30 pm)
Is the 91 LC transmission as solid as the 93 and 94 that you mention?
Sep 27, 2002 (4:18 pm)
The 91-92 was an A440 according to a friend on another Cruiser list. I know less about it, but something about Toyota numerical systems. I suspect the A440 was the same basic H.D. transmission as the A442, reflecting its modification for the 4.5L engine that replaced the 4.0 starting in '93.
So, yes it is as solid.
#2007 of 5282 1999 vs. 2000?
Sep 27, 2002 (9:35 pm)
I am considering purchasing my first Land Cruiser. My budget is within a 1999 or 2000. The question is, is the electronic brake force distribution, active traction control, and vehicle skid control worth going to the 2000. I have found a nice 1999 but am concerned about not getting the 2000 improvements. Or, are these really necessary? Any help on this decision would be greatly appreciated.
#2008 of 5282 Pricing for a used Land Cruiser
Sep 27, 2002 (9:41 pm)
Can anyone help me with what I should pay over wholesale for a "good condition" '99 or '00 Land Cruiser with average mileage. I am a first time buyer and don't want to over pay but am willing to pay fair market value, whatever that is. Any help would be appreciated.