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Article comments for Comparison Test: 2007 Half-Ton Pickup Trucks - For almost two weeks, we drove all three trucks in a variety of terrain including urban crush, freeways and gravel roads. We loaded and unloaded them, poked and prodded them, and even dyno-tested them. (more)

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#2 of 259 Good Review by belias

Jan 24, 2007 (6:55 am)

It seems like a pretty good review to me. I can't imagine that anybody could go wrong choosing either one of the trucks. Personal preference will definitely play a part in one' decision. I did find it a little perculiar that the Chevy had muted hp/torque scores during testing...

#3 of 259 Re: Good Review by collegeguy3

Jan 24, 2007 (7:13 am)

Replying to: belias (Jan 24, 2007 6:55 am)
It's just curious to me that the F-150 wasn't chosen to compete in the truck segment. This would be similar to the honda accord not being included in midsize sedan comparison, or the toyota prius not being included in a hybrid comparison in my opinion. I believe there was a previous comparison between the F-150 and the Titan, thus the Titan being included here since it won, however there was no direct comparison to these new entrants, which seems almost like a missed oppurtunity. Every truck has its strengths and weaknesses compared to each other, and the only way to truely see this is to line them up next to each other and test them all together. Just my 2 cents I guess.

#4 of 259 Incomplete by Ravenone

Jan 24, 2007 (1:40 pm)

Where are the Ford and Dodge pickups? Have we just thrown in the towel and accepted the foreign vehicles, except the sacred Chevrolet?

#5 of 259 Skewed again! by bigsexy2

Jan 24, 2007 (3:34 pm)

Your recent test comparison between the 2007 Chevy Silverado "production model" and the 2007 Toyota Tundra "pre-production" model is skewed. In addition, the Tundra is not a true crew-cab whereas the Silverado is so how can you compare true performance figures, fuel economy, and capacities when the trucks are different from the start. The pre-production Tundra that you tested could have a been a ringer from the factory knowing the test was coming. How about a real world heads up test between a 2007 Silverado Extended Cab Z71 4X4 package sporting the 6.0L V-8 Vortec max against the 2007 Toyota Tundra Double Cab Limited (production model)? FYI I sell the GMC lineup not Chevy.

#6 of 259 Re: Incomplete [Ravenone] by rorr

Jan 24, 2007 (4:36 pm)

Replying to: Ravenone (Jan 24, 2007 1:40 pm)
"Where are the Ford and Dodge pickups? Have we just thrown in the towel and accepted the foreign vehicles, except the sacred Chevrolet?"
 
They stated up front that they were testing the ALL NEW trucks (Chevy and Toyota) in addition to the WINNER of the last truck roundup in 2004 (Nissan).
 
Given the fact that the Nissan was a clear winner in the last comparison, and that neither the Dodge nor Ford are SUBSTANTIALLY different since the last test, is there really a point to including ALL the trucks again?

#7 of 259 Re: Skewed again! [bigsexy2] by rorr

Jan 24, 2007 (4:44 pm)

Replying to: bigsexy2 (Jan 24, 2007 3:34 pm)
Agreed.
 
Personally, I think they could have waited until production model Tundra's were available. And made a better attempt at testing more similar configurations.
 
I noticed that both the Tundra and Titan were dogged for a stiff on-pavement ride and the Silverado praised.....while both the Tundra and Titan were equipped with stiffer off-road suspension packages and the Silverado wasn't. Go figure....
 
What I got out of the test was this: right now, the Chevy and the Toyota are at the top of the 1/2-ton heap. Personally, I don't think there is a clear cut "winner". Ultimately, purchase decisions will probably come down to personal preferences over minor things. Either one would be a good choice.

#8 of 259 Better Powertrain Comparison by dunit1

Jan 24, 2007 (8:12 pm)

Let us see how the Tundra fares against a Sierra Denali with the 6.2L and 6-speed as soon as possible please.

#9 of 259 Re: Skewed again! [rorr] by rockylee

Jan 25, 2007 (3:20 am)

Replying to: rorr (Jan 24, 2007 4:44 pm)
You also noticed that Edmunds.com tested a stripped version of the Silverado up against a leather lined Tundra with all the bells and whistles ?
 
I was cursing 4-letter words at the obvious video It's ashame when I see this happen. We can't compare equal vehicals in a test in this country. Steve Wonder, could of saw the obvious winner in that test.
 
Rocky

#10 of 259 Re: Better Powertrain Comparison [dunit1] by rockylee

Jan 25, 2007 (3:22 am)

Replying to: dunit1 (Jan 24, 2007 8:12 pm)
That's the one they (edmunds.com) should of grabbed for the test. If you want to compare apples to apples let's do it. Otherwise don't do it at all.
 
It reinforces my conspiracy theory's
 
Rocky

#11 of 259 Errors in article by lazygoodan

Jan 25, 2007 (7:14 am)

There are some errors in this article. And they failed to point out some differences in the trucks. For one, they didn't get the cargo management system with the Silverado. If they had, you would notice that the tie-downs are rated for 500lbs. in the Chevy -- Only 220 lbs. for the Toyota system and 200 lbs. for the Nissan.
Also, for all models, the Emergency Assistance System is listed as Not Available.
OnStar is standard for the Chevy. If that's not an emergency assistance system, then what is?

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