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Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Nissan Titan, Toyota Tundra, Truck
Article comments for Comparison Test: 2007 Half-Ton Pickup Trucks - For almost two weeks, we drove all three trucks in a variety of terrain including urban crush, freeways and gravel roads. We loaded and unloaded them, poked and prodded them, and even dyno-tested them. (more)
#9 of 259 Re: Skewed again! [rorr]
Jan 25, 2007 (3:20 am)
You also noticed that Edmunds.com tested a stripped version of the Silverado up against a leather lined Tundra with all the bells and whistles ?
I was cursing 4-letter words at the obvious video It's ashame when I see this happen. We can't compare equal vehicals in a test in this country. Steve Wonder, could of saw the obvious winner in that test.
#10 of 259 Re: Better Powertrain Comparison [dunit1]
Jan 25, 2007 (3:22 am)
That's the one they (edmunds.com) should of grabbed for the test. If you want to compare apples to apples let's do it. Otherwise don't do it at all.
It reinforces my conspiracy theory's
#11 of 259 Errors in article
Jan 25, 2007 (7:14 am)
There are some errors in this article. And they failed to point out some differences in the trucks. For one, they didn't get the cargo management system with the Silverado. If they had, you would notice that the tie-downs are rated for 500lbs. in the Chevy -- Only 220 lbs. for the Toyota system and 200 lbs. for the Nissan.
Also, for all models, the Emergency Assistance System is listed as Not Available.
OnStar is standard for the Chevy. If that's not an emergency assistance system, then what is?
#12 of 259 Skewed? Hardly!
Jan 25, 2007 (7:48 am)
Wow, this is exactly the kind of backlash that the Titan felt after its comparo win.
Sure the Tundra DC isn't the biggest cab available, but in terms of interior space, its similar to the other two trucks in this test.
Rockylee - did you read the article or listen to the video? Edmunds.com clearly stated they used their Long-Term Silverado, which has garnered much praise in the Blog. They also stated that despite it being a mid-trim model, it had a great interior and a number of good features. (In reality, the greater miles should have allowed the Chevy's engine an advantage in fuel efficiency, as the engine is fully broken-in. But, the overall MPG for the vehicle - during its entire stay, as well as during the test, was well behind that of the smaller engined Titan and Tundra).
More troubling, IMO, is the very well executed and technically interesting dyno test that shows where the Titan and Tundra really shine (as well as braking, where 'ol Silver was well behind).
I think people need to chill. It's just one comparo and realistically, what are Toyota's sales goals for the Tundra? I believe I recall reading they are pretty modest - like 200 or 250K annually. Ford and Chevy will barely notice this. I think its just finally, there's a new kid on the block that poses a serious threat...
#13 of 259 Re: Better Powertrain Comparison [rockylee]
Jan 25, 2007 (9:23 am)
The Sierra Denali hardly qualifies as a work truck. It is more like a niche truck like the Escalade. How many Sierra Denalis do you actually see at a construction site ? It is a limited production truck that very few people buy. Too bad the 6.2 engine isn't available in the more mainstream Silverado or Sierra models.
#14 of 259 Re: Better Powertrain Comparison [rockylee]
Jan 25, 2007 (6:08 pm)
C'mon, the Denali doesn't belong in this comparison just like the Lincoln Mark LT and Escalade EXT doesn't either.
There is no conspiracy here.
#15 of 259 Re: Better Powertrain Comparison [dunit1]
Jan 25, 2007 (9:00 pm)
First off the Tundra is a mans truck boy, not some ladies truck. The Sierra can hardly pull 4000 lbs, where in which the Tundra can easily pull 7000 lbs, the Sierra can hardly take 1400 lb worth of payload, the Tundra can take a beating of upto 2100 lbs! Where's your mighty Sierra now, behinds its mommy. The Tundra will bring respect to the Toyota name! Wait 'til 2014-2017 the Tundra will be Americas best selling fullsize pickup!
P.S The Tundra starts at $22,290. Bit pricey!
#16 of 259 Re: Better Powertrain Comparison [iqbaldhillon2]
Jan 26, 2007 (3:42 am)
The towing capacity for the denali classic is 8100 lbs and payload is 1573lbs. Whats up with the 4 second throttle lag in the chevy??? Is it the vvt system??? Like the 1980s cadillac 4 6 8 fuel injection?
#17 of 259 Re: Better Powertrain Comparison [ahoron]
Jan 26, 2007 (8:34 am)
Read the details of the dyno test, and you'll understand where the 4 second threshold comes from. It's all in the programming.
#18 of 259 Re: Better Powertrain Comparison [andy82471]
Jan 26, 2007 (8:44 am)
The Denali has all the hardware as a work truck. It has
a Z-71 suspension w/ skidplates, can be configured with a toolbox, bigger powertrain, and a real bed 6.5 ft.
Some farmers in our area own Sierra Denali's because they like the luxury. One of our construction crew's at work owns a Sierra Denali, a 2002' I think ? This truck
(07' Sierra Denali) is every bit as capable as the Tundra, but yes out does the top of the line Tundra for around the same money.