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Article comments for Comparison Test: 2007 Half-Ton Pickup Trucks - For almost two weeks, we drove all three trucks in a variety of terrain including urban crush, freeways and gravel roads. We loaded and unloaded them, poked and prodded them, and even dyno-tested them. (more)

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#27 of 259 Re: jeffs17 [jeffs17] by toykicks

Jan 28, 2007 (6:23 pm)

Replying to: jeffs17 (Jan 28, 2007 12:22 pm)
true... Time will tell. more comparison tests should be coming out. I dont expect much from motortrend or car and driver since motor trend already picked out the silvy before the new tundra launched and C & D bashes almost anything toyota comes out with. Check out Trailer boats tests they actually test their 1/2 tons. They should have some #s up later this year (towing & stopping times vs. comp). Brakes on the new tundra wont fit with 17 inch rims so i'm guessing they should have decent stopping power.

#28 of 259 Re: jeffs17 [toykicks] by toykicks

Jan 28, 2007 (6:35 pm)

Replying to: toykicks (Jan 28, 2007 6:23 pm)
edmunds should do a 1/2 ton towing test. Compare the f150 5.4 - dodge ram 1500 5.7 hemi - Chevy silverdo 6.0 - nissan titan 5.6 & Tundra 5.7 all 4x4s extended cabs since those sell the most. And compare towing and hauling acceleration times and stopping distances while towing and hauling and show each trucks mpg towing 6k in a 200 mile trip... Then pick the winner
 

#29 of 259 Re: jeffs17 [toykicks] by gearhead1

Jan 29, 2007 (8:55 am)

Replying to: toykicks (Jan 28, 2007 6:35 pm)
It really doesn't matter because if the Tundra is pulling a 0-60 second time of 6.3 seconds, that speaks directly to how well it will pull a load. The chevy is whipped no matter how you slice it. The Tundra has the superior powertrain and GM is stuck playing catch up especially with that 4 speed tranny.

#30 of 259 Re: gearhead1 by toykicks

Jan 29, 2007 (11:15 am)

I wouldnt call it superior. The new silverado and ford have a max payload capacity of 3050+ lbs while the new tundra is only rated at 2060+ for its long bed reg cab. GM is using their old ratings for their silverado and sierras they will probably flip some numbers around in a few months just like ford did when the Titan was launched.

#31 of 259 Re: gearhead1 [toykicks] by gearhead1

Jan 29, 2007 (12:43 pm)

Replying to: toykicks (Jan 29, 2007 11:15 am)
More horse power, more torque with a superb 6 speed to deliver all that horse power to the wheels, and maybe most importantly, no 4 second lag that the Chevy has in accessing its full rated power. I call that superior.
 
Payload ratings? .....eehh. Manufacturers can play with spec sheets all they want just as Ford conveniently upped their tow rating without doing anything to the truck. people will throw anything they want in these trucks without even thinking about it. Hec, there are Ridgeline's running around with more than 1,600 lbs in the bed with no problem way exceeding Honda's specs.
 
Just a humorous side note. Home Depot has F250s for rent and wont't let you put more than a thousand pounds in the bed. the truck won't start until you unload it to Home Depots 1,000 lb limit.

#32 of 259 Re: Rocky [drfill] by rockylee

Jan 30, 2007 (5:36 am)

Replying to: drfill (Jan 28, 2007 9:33 am)
DrFill,
 
I can see why the Tundra won based on the comparo. What "Utility" advantage did the Tundra have over the Silverado ??????
 
I'm very interested to hear your answer......
 
Rocky

#33 of 259 Rocky by drfill

Jan 30, 2007 (7:43 am)

Seems like you answered your own question, since you said you can see why the Tundra won.
 
  If you read the article, the answer is pretty clear.
 
  The drivetrain seemed to be the difference, to me. No scrubs from Toyota. Looks like GM nickeled and dimed right where a driver would easily notice.
 
  With such vehicles, confidence is a pretty big selling point, and the GM powertrain sapped their confidence, while Toyota inspired it. Big difference.
 
  The Chevy might be able to do everything the Toyota can, but it didn't inspire confidence.
 
  Went to the Auto Show this weekend, and was impressed by the styling, interior, damped tailgate of the Tundra.
 
  I don't think there is a comparison in style. The Chevy looks like it is targeting a older generation. Looks dated, and too conservative. Not 21st century style. The Toyota is stylish, without being cartoonish. I think Ford, Dodge, and Toyota all have style, where the Chevy lacks.
 
  DrFill

#34 of 259 Re: Rocky [drfill] by gearhead1

Jan 30, 2007 (9:02 am)

Replying to: drfill (Jan 30, 2007 7:43 am)
I don't think there is a comparison in style. The Chevy looks like it is targeting a older generation. Looks dated, and too conservative. Not 21st century style.
 
I think the word your looking for is "stodgy". The new Chevy is very, very, stodgy especially the interior. The 4 second lag in the engine, 4 speed tranny and the stodgy interior should keep those loyal 70 year old domestic buyers where the belong, with GM.
 
If anyone in this segment wants the biggest baddest truck, there is only one choice. The Tundra of course.

#35 of 259 Re: Rocky [drfill] by rockylee

Jan 30, 2007 (12:36 pm)

Replying to: drfill (Jan 30, 2007 7:43 am)
Seems like you answered your own question, since you said you can see why the Tundra won.
 
Well I was being sarcastic which I guess you didn't cattch.
 
If I take a GMC Sierra Denali and run it against a base 2WD Tundra in off roading, utility, luxury, quality, the answer is obvious who's going to win. The edmunds comparo DrFill was exactly like that. The Silverado wasn't a Z-71 version and lacked the LTZ's leather, navigation, and other nice touches. It was a apples to oranges comparo. The Titan also lacked it's top models trim
 
Give me a break.........
 
The drivetrain seemed to be the difference, to me. No scrubs from Toyota. Looks like GM nickeled and dimed right where a driver would easily notice.
  
  With such vehicles, confidence is a pretty big selling point, and the GM powertrain sapped their confidence, while Toyota inspired it. Big difference.
  
  The Chevy might be able to do everything the Toyota can, but it didn't inspire confidence.
 
Well I suppose everyone else must of felt different as they named the Silverado North American Truck of the year. Anyone can win when they have one apple going up against oranges.
 
 Went to the Auto Show this weekend, and was impressed by the styling, interior, damped tailgate of the Tundra.
  
  I don't think there is a comparison in style. The Chevy looks like it is targeting a older generation. Looks dated, and too conservative. Not 21st century style. The Toyota is stylish, without being cartoonish. I think Ford, Dodge, and Toyota all have style, where the Chevy lacks
 
The Tundra looks like a glorified american "wanna be" truck. It lacks the warranty, interior quality, sophistication of the GMT-900's. The Sierra Denali, has a 400 hp 6.2 powertrain and can easily out muscle the new Tundra. The 400 hp. Vortec max 6.2 will be available this fall on the Silverado. I also hear nothing about a hybrid version of the Tundra. The Tundra also has that cartoonish 4 door non-crewmax cab which looks weird as the top rear corner of the cab looks awful. The crewmax looks better but will cost you more dough and why buy one over a Sierra Denali ?
 
Rocky

#36 of 259 Re: Rocky [gearhead1] by rockylee

Jan 30, 2007 (12:42 pm)

Replying to: gearhead1 (Jan 30, 2007 9:02 am)
Functionally, the Tundra's cabin is outstanding, with plenty of handy bins and that versatile center console, but the design of the instrumentation display wasn't universally loved. Nor was the Tundra interior's combination of silver, gray and black plastics that looked soft but felt hard. When we drove off-road, however, the Tundra's interior didn't attract nearly as much dust as the Silverado's nicer-looking cabin.
 
After piloting the Tundra, the Silverado gives the impression of tidier dimensions. It's a bit easier to step up into the Chevy's cab, so the lack of a grab handle on the driver side isn't an issue (although a curious omission nonetheless). The interior shares some of the basic style of the previous-generation GMT800 GM trucks, but almost none of that truck's cheap detailing. Overall, it feels like a right-size truck, perfect for all-around use.
 
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=119281
 
If anyone in this segment wants the biggest baddest truck, there is only one choice. The Tundra of course.
 
gearhead1,
 
Just a bit biased are we.
 
Give me a Sierra Denali, and I will out do the Tundra's in every test.
 
-Rocky

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