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Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Nissan Titan, Toyota Tundra, Truck
Article comments for Comparison Test: 2007 Half-Ton Pickup Trucks - For almost two weeks, we drove all three trucks in a variety of terrain including urban crush, freeways and gravel roads. We loaded and unloaded them, poked and prodded them, and even dyno-tested them. (more)
#22 of 259 Re: Atleast use the best selling truck for 30 years [fordsrule13]
Jan 26, 2007 (5:48 pm)
Its kind of funny how the F-150 Towing capacity jumped up this year. When the Nissan came out they said they beat Nissan AFTER they released their figures. Now Tundra is at 10,800 magically the Ford now tows 11,00o with out a thing being diffrent in the truck!!??
Sounds like they asked the lawyers how much it might cost them if some one really tried to tow that much and killed themselsves in the wreck that wil result and they figured they could right a check for that much.
#23 of 259 Re: Article Comments 2007 Half-Ton Pickups Comparison [KarenS]
Jan 27, 2007 (3:07 am)
Toyota didn't publish prices so you just eliminated the pricing component? That's idiotic. What you get for the money is probably the most important part of any comparison test.
Frankly the idea of ranking vehicles strikes me as silly anyway. Every buyer has a different set of priorities for a vehicle. Even for a full size pickup truck everyone is going to have different priorities from off road prowess to towing, etc.
Edmunds could do better to simply review the vehicles, compare them against each other in specific areas, rank each vehicles strengths and weaknesses, and spare us the childish rankings.
If you look at how most vehicle comparison articles are written, so much of the article is about being "number one", or "not quite good enough", and other verbal references to this pedantic little ranking system when in reality most vehicles win by a couple of points out of hundreds of points in Motor Trend, Car and Driver and the others. The writers tend to portray the idea that there is a vast gulf between 1st and subsequently lower places when in reality it's rarely the case. If they admitted most vehicles are "pretty good" that wouldn't sell auto magazines or get web hits, so take these comparison articles for what they are worth and watch out for the exaggerated distinctions.
Jan 28, 2007 (9:33 am)
You also noticed that Edmunds.com tested a stripped version of the Silverado up against a leather lined Tundra with all the bells and whistles ?
Mattered not, as the Toyota won because it had "more utility", which a $35k "stripper" should have had as it's trump card.
The point is not whether Toyota builds better full-size trucks, but now that the General has to sweat to stay ahead of the curve.
The General CAN'T lose this battle, so a win for the home team isn't in question.
#25 of 259 F-150s can tow 10k
Jan 28, 2007 (9:39 am)
Just don't ask for a rush job.
It'll get it there, doh.
I think the Nissan, Toyota and Chevy were built more for rush jobs.
Jan 28, 2007 (12:22 pm)
This is supposed to be a truck comparison? So where are the real-world towing and hauling results? Who cares about a 0.7 second difference in 0-60 acceleration (with the trucks unloaded). I want to know how these trucks can handle a 6000 lb trailer. I don't care about the inflated tow ratings manufacturers assign to their trucks. It's the real world that counts.
#27 of 259 Re: jeffs17 [jeffs17]
Jan 28, 2007 (6:23 pm)
true... Time will tell. more comparison tests should be coming out. I dont expect much from motortrend or car and driver since motor trend already picked out the silvy before the new tundra launched and C & D bashes almost anything toyota comes out with. Check out Trailer boats tests they actually test their 1/2 tons. They should have some #s up later this year (towing & stopping times vs. comp). Brakes on the new tundra wont fit with 17 inch rims so i'm guessing they should have decent stopping power.
#28 of 259 Re: jeffs17 [toykicks]
Jan 28, 2007 (6:35 pm)
edmunds should do a 1/2 ton towing test. Compare the f150 5.4 - dodge ram 1500 5.7 hemi - Chevy silverdo 6.0 - nissan titan 5.6 & Tundra 5.7 all 4x4s extended cabs since those sell the most. And compare towing and hauling acceleration times and stopping distances while towing and hauling and show each trucks mpg towing 6k in a 200 mile trip... Then pick the winner
#29 of 259 Re: jeffs17 [toykicks]
Jan 29, 2007 (8:55 am)
It really doesn't matter because if the Tundra is pulling a 0-60 second time of 6.3 seconds, that speaks directly to how well it will pull a load. The chevy is whipped no matter how you slice it. The Tundra has the superior powertrain and GM is stuck playing catch up especially with that 4 speed tranny.
#30 of 259 Re: gearhead1
Jan 29, 2007 (11:15 am)
I wouldnt call it superior. The new silverado and ford have a max payload capacity of 3050+ lbs while the new tundra is only rated at 2060+ for its long bed reg cab. GM is using their old ratings for their silverado and sierras they will probably flip some numbers around in a few months just like ford did when the Titan was launched.
#31 of 259 Re: gearhead1 [toykicks]
Jan 29, 2007 (12:43 pm)
More horse power, more torque with a superb 6 speed to deliver all that horse power to the wheels, and maybe most importantly, no 4 second lag that the Chevy has in accessing its full rated power. I call that superior.
Payload ratings? .....eehh. Manufacturers can play with spec sheets all they want just as Ford conveniently upped their tow rating without doing anything to the truck. people will throw anything they want in these trucks without even thinking about it. Hec, there are Ridgeline's running around with more than 1,600 lbs in the bed with no problem way exceeding Honda's specs.
Just a humorous side note. Home Depot has F250s for rent and wont't let you put more than a thousand pounds in the bed. the truck won't start until you unload it to Home Depots 1,000 lb limit.