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Article comments for Comparison Test: 2007 Half-Ton Pickup Trucks - For almost two weeks, we drove all three trucks in a variety of terrain including urban crush, freeways and gravel roads. We loaded and unloaded them, poked and prodded them, and even dyno-tested them. (more)
#19 of 259 Re: Better Powertrain Comparison [ggesq]
by rockylee
Jan 26, 2007 (8:47 am)
The Mark LT is more like the Escalade, than the Sierra Denali. The Sierra Denali offers most of the luxury touches of the Escalade, but has blue collar carpenter roots.
It's a Man's....Man Truck
Rocky
#20 of 259 Re: Better Powertrain Comparison [ahoron]
by iqbaldhillon2
Jan 26, 2007 (5:01 pm)
Wow big difference, but the Sierra will not stand a chance against the Tundra Double Cab V8 w/ 5.7 L 4x4 and leather, bluetooth, and backup camera.
#21 of 259 Atleast use the best selling truck for 30 years
by fordsrule13
Jan 26, 2007 (5:11 pm)
Why didn't they use the best selling truck for 30 years, the F-150. It has 10,500 pounds of towing, and 2710 pounds for payload. so its not a real comparison till they have the F-150 in it.
#22 of 259 Re: Atleast use the best selling truck for 30 years [fordsrule13]
by dreasdad
Jan 26, 2007 (5:48 pm)
Its kind of funny how the F-150 Towing capacity jumped up this year. When the Nissan came out they said they beat Nissan AFTER they released their figures. Now Tundra is at 10,800 magically the Ford now tows 11,00o with out a thing being diffrent in the truck!!??
Sounds like they asked the lawyers how much it might cost them if some one really tried to tow that much and killed themselsves in the wreck that wil result and they figured they could right a check for that much.
#23 of 259 Re: Article Comments 2007 Half-Ton Pickups Comparison [KarenS]
by ntimmerman
Jan 27, 2007 (3:07 am)
Toyota didn't publish prices so you just eliminated the pricing component? That's idiotic. What you get for the money is probably the most important part of any comparison test.
Frankly the idea of ranking vehicles strikes me as silly anyway. Every buyer has a different set of priorities for a vehicle. Even for a full size pickup truck everyone is going to have different priorities from off road prowess to towing, etc.
Edmunds could do better to simply review the vehicles, compare them against each other in specific areas, rank each vehicles strengths and weaknesses, and spare us the childish rankings.
If you look at how most vehicle comparison articles are written, so much of the article is about being "number one", or "not quite good enough", and other verbal references to this pedantic little ranking system when in reality most vehicles win by a couple of points out of hundreds of points in Motor Trend, Car and Driver and the others. The writers tend to portray the idea that there is a vast gulf between 1st and subsequently lower places when in reality it's rarely the case. If they admitted most vehicles are "pretty good" that wouldn't sell auto magazines or get web hits, so take these comparison articles for what they are worth and watch out for the exaggerated distinctions.
Jan 28, 2007 (9:33 am)
You also noticed that Edmunds.com tested a stripped version of the Silverado up against a leather lined Tundra with all the bells and whistles ?
Mattered not, as the Toyota won because it had "more utility", which a $35k "stripper" should have had as it's trump card.
The point is not whether Toyota builds better full-size trucks, but now that the General has to sweat to stay ahead of the curve.
The General CAN'T lose this battle, so a win for the home team isn't in question.
DrFill
#25 of 259 F-150s can tow 10k
by drfill
Jan 28, 2007 (9:39 am)
Just don't ask for a rush job.
It'll get it there, doh.
Eventually.
I think the Nissan, Toyota and Chevy were built more for rush jobs.
DrFill
Jan 28, 2007 (12:22 pm)
This is supposed to be a truck comparison? So where are the real-world towing and hauling results? Who cares about a 0.7 second difference in 0-60 acceleration (with the trucks unloaded). I want to know how these trucks can handle a 6000 lb trailer. I don't care about the inflated tow ratings manufacturers assign to their trucks. It's the real world that counts.
#27 of 259 Re: jeffs17 [jeffs17]
by toykicks
Jan 28, 2007 (6:23 pm)
true... Time will tell. more comparison tests should be coming out. I dont expect much from motortrend or car and driver since motor trend already picked out the silvy before the new tundra launched and C & D bashes almost anything toyota comes out with. Check out Trailer boats tests they actually test their 1/2 tons. They should have some #s up later this year (towing & stopping times vs. comp). Brakes on the new tundra wont fit with 17 inch rims so i'm guessing they should have decent stopping power.
#28 of 259 Re: jeffs17 [toykicks]
by toykicks
Jan 28, 2007 (6:35 pm)
edmunds should do a 1/2 ton towing test. Compare the f150 5.4 - dodge ram 1500 5.7 hemi - Chevy silverdo 6.0 - nissan titan 5.6 & Tundra 5.7 all 4x4s extended cabs since those sell the most. And compare towing and hauling acceleration times and stopping distances while towing and hauling and show each trucks mpg towing 6k in a 200 mile trip... Then pick the winner