Last post on Oct 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM
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GMC Acadia, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV
#7338 of 7355 Re: all the crossovers look like minivans these days [Stever@Edmunds]
Sep 02, 2013 (4:58 pm)
Agreed on the upright seating position. I think that'll keep me in crossover land v. going back to a sedan. But my reason is medical. My right knee is a little bad. When using cruise control in a crossover I can comfortably set my foot flat on the floorboard while retaining some thigh support. In a sedan I can't so I wind up "crossing" my right leg to the left & resting it on the side of my foot. That creates a torque on my knee that distresses the joint. (And yeah I've gone through PT; it just isn't going to get better)
I'll freely admit the seats in my wife's Elantra are way better/less fatiguing for long haul cruising than those in my Outlander. But the Outlander wins if there's any decent chance of using cruise control.
#7339 of 7355 Re: all the crossovers look like minivans these days [sfran7]
Sep 04, 2013 (6:34 am)
Check out a certified pre-owned 2012 Escape. They still look like SUVs, were rock solid because the design had been around awhile, and had friendly driving dynamics like Hondas do.
#7340 of 7355 Re: all the crossovers look like minivans these days [sfran7]
Sep 04, 2013 (9:43 am)
Yes, glad the 2014 Forester stayed relatively boxy. It has low center-of-gravity for good handling, due partly to the boxer engine design, but actually has best-in-class ground clearance of 8.7"! A height-adjustable driver's seat is standard on every single trim level, so that should alleviate any feeling of peering over a high dash & hood. (I'm not particularly tall, and have the exact same peeve about many cars, but found the new Forester to be great in this regard when I test drove an XT trim. The great visibility all around helps, too.) With the best AWD, fuel economy, safety & reliability, exceptional rear seat room & overall utility, all at a great price, the redesigned Forester seems like a "best pick" to me. It drives nicely, too.
#7341 of 7355 Update time....
Sep 04, 2013 (5:57 pm)
Well, I finally got the go ahead from the boss (wife) to look at potential upgrades from my current ride (2006 Honda Pilot EX-OR - named "The Beast") and I've started my comparison list.
The rules that have been set forth to me by the boss are as follows...
1. Must stay with a V6.
2. Must have 3rd Row Seating
3. Must have Towing package higher than 3500lbs and Roof carrying capable.
4. Must stay under $40k
I know I'm only going to get between $8k - $10k as a trade-in or private sale so that also will go into the new vehicle. I will try for 2014's, but will go for a left-over 2013 if the deal is good enough.
My list stands currently at (in no particular order)....
1. Toyota 4Runner SR5
2. Honda Pilot EX
3. Dodge Durango SXT or Rallye
4. Nissan Pathfinder
5. GMC Acadia SLE or SLT
6. Ford Explorer XLT
I was going to go with the Highlander over the 4Runner, but I like the looks of the 4 better with the 2014 refresh and mileage is silimar. Only the Explorer and Pathfinder seem to roll more towards the Car look of a SUV than the others. I haven't seen anything on the possible Pilot refresh for '14, but have been told the redesign is slated for '15 with the full rebuild of the Ridgeline. I have not tried any of these on for size yet and will keep everyone updated with my progress. If nothing is done before the end of the year, then the major cross-comapre will be done at the Philly Auto Show in Feb.
If any of you have got any of these models in the 2013, then let me know your likes / dislikes and if you compared to any of the others on this list.
#7343 of 7355 Re: Update time.... [stickguy]
Sep 04, 2013 (9:14 pm)
I'll have to look at that one too. The Nissan and Hyundai dealer are same place near me.
#7344 of 7355 Re: Update time.... [odie6l]
Sep 05, 2013 (5:28 pm)
I'm also adding the Ford Flex onto the list with the new engine / towing package ups it to 5,000lbs. from 3,500lbs.
#7345 of 7355 Re: Update time.... [odie6l]
Sep 11, 2013 (7:14 am)
Do not buy an Acadia or an Outlook (the Outlook is still out there in used lots). Just read about all the transmission issues:
The acadia is the same vehicle, so stay away from that one, too. Perhaps GM has fixed the defective transmission with current models...not sure. I can tell you the 2007 Outlook is junk. The transmission breaks anywhere between 60,000-80,000 miles and although GM knows about the defect, they won't issue a recall or offer to help pay for repairs. It's a known defect.
#7346 of 7355 Re: Update time.... [apow]
Sep 12, 2013 (5:16 pm)
yeah, that one is at the bottom of the list anyway. (in no order) Top 3 on the list are the Pilot, 4Runner, & Pathfinder. Middle 3 are the Durango, Santa Fe, and Highlander. Bottom 3 are the Acadia, Exploder, and Flex.
One of my co-workers has a Borrego from Kia, but I do not believe they make it any longer. Looks nice though.
#7347 of 7355 Re: all the crossovers look like minivans these days [jeffmc]
Oct 06, 2013 (8:51 pm)
I test drove the 2014 Forester Premium, 2013 Rav4 XLE, 2014 Escape SE 4WD, 2014 Escape Titanium 4WD, and the 2014 Mazda CX5.
I drive through highly congested areas so visibility is important to me. The Forester had the best visibility followed by the Escape, the CX5, and then the Rav4. I didn't like the visibility of the Rav4, and the CX5. I felt that the best engine and handling was the Escape Titanium, Rav4, Mazda CX5, Escape SE, then the Forester.
The Forester had about the same power as the Escape SE but when I went down a hill to a stop sign, the downshift while slowing down was quite noticeable. I preferred the larger display for the backup camera on the Escape than the Forester. I am waiting to test drive a CRV.