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#7045 of 7326 2010 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring Package (Canada) vs. 2009 Santa Fe GLS by yvr1

Oct 23, 2009 (12:30 pm)

I am thinking about purchasing the Forester or the Santa FE here in Vancouver, Canada. Test drove other models (i.e. RAV 4 and CR-V but came to the conclusion that they are inferior to the Forester). Hyundai is offering basically $3000 off on all their vehicles to clear out the 2009 models. The 2.5 X with Touring Package is comparable to the Santa Fe's 3.3 GLS except that the Santa Fe comes with leather seating and a six speaker sterero and the engine is a V6 which provides 242 hp. The MRSP of the Santa Fe before the cash rebate is $33, 045 and after the rebate is $30,045. MRSP of the Forester is $29,795.00. Everyone says resale value of Hyundai is weak, but this would be partially offset by the rebate. The Santa Fe gives a lot of bang for the buck. I only drove the model with the four cylinder but will go back to drive one with the six. I found the four very weak and Subaru's more smooth and quicker. On the plus side, I believe that the cargo space (with the second seats up) is bigger than the Foresters. I'm only concerned with cargo space beyond the 2nd row for now because I have two infants and their car seats take up all the space in the 2nd row on a permanent basis
 
Any input is appreciated; the dealers are quickly running out of the Santa Fe's apparently.
 
VCR1

#7046 of 7326 Re: 2010 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring Package (Canada) vs. 2009 Santa Fe GLS [yvr1] by ateixeira

Oct 23, 2009 (12:39 pm)

Replying to: yvr1 (Oct 23, 2009 12:30 pm)
Hyundai has come a long way, and that's a good value for a V6.
 
My concern would be fuel economy, that and depreciation will make your TCO higher on the SF.
 
Drive one - you may find it's worth the extra outlay, but just go in knowing it will cost you a bit more to operate.

#7047 of 7326 Re: 2010 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring Package (Canada) vs. 2009 Santa Fe GLS [yvr1] by chelentano

Oct 23, 2009 (1:28 pm)

Replying to: yvr1 (Oct 23, 2009 12:30 pm)
I test drove the non-turbo Forester and felt it was underpowered. Otherwise it's a good reliable car.
 
Santa Fe is more luxurious, offers V6, better 5/10 warranty and more space, so seems it would serve your needs better. If it costs you little more overtime, you would get your money worth.

#7048 of 7326 Re: 2010 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring Package (Canada) vs. 2009 Santa Fe GLS [ateixeira] by redrose1

Oct 23, 2009 (2:15 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 23, 2009 12:39 pm)
I would like to know how the AWD on the Subaru compares to the AWD on the SF.
 
(Forester or Outback vs SF)
 
Thank you.

#7049 of 7326 Re: 2010 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring Package (Canada) vs. 2009 Santa Fe GLS [yvr1] by thegraduate

Oct 25, 2009 (8:53 pm)

Replying to: yvr1 (Oct 23, 2009 12:30 pm)
The Santa Fe gives a lot of bang for the buck. I only drove the model with the four cylinder but will go back to drive one with the six.
 
Hyundai doesn't offer a 4-cylinder 2009 Santa Fe. The GLS (what you drove) uses a 2.7L V6 engine, with 185 horsepower and 183 ft-lbs of torque. It's actually quite smooth to me, even at high RPM, if not particularly quick off the line. For 2010, Hyundai is replacing that engine with a 4-cylinder delivering 200 horses and better fuel mileage.

#7050 of 7326 Re: 2010 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring Package (Canada) vs. 2009 Santa Fe GLS [thegraduate] by cbmorton

Oct 26, 2009 (6:51 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 25, 2009 8:53 pm)
In Canada, the 2.7 V6 is only available on the GL FWD. The GLS uses the 3.3 exclusively.

#7051 of 7326 Re: 2010 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring Package (Canada) vs. 2009 Santa Fe GLS [redrose1] by ateixeira

Oct 26, 2009 (12:16 pm)

Replying to: redrose1 (Oct 23, 2009 2:15 pm)
Subaru has several different systems, two on the Forester alone.
 
The manuals have a simple viscous coupling mating the front and rear axles together, acting like a center diff. When one rotates at a different rate than the other, the fluid sheers and thickens, temporarily locking the two axles together. Subaru lets their AWD systems act first, but as a backup there is also a traction and stability control system, to manage traction on each axle (if one side is slipping).
 
The automatics use a clutch pack to adjust the amount of power sent to the rear axle, and they manage both axles with traction control as well.
 
Hyundai's system is FWD based and on-demand only, rather than always engaged. It's a pretty basic system, AFAIK.
 
A bigger factor may be ground clearance and angles of approach and departure, where the Forester broadens its advantage.
 
A Forester XT (turbo) will easily outrun the much heavier Santa Fe even with the big V6, but the SF is bigger inside so consider your needs carefully. The Subie is CR's top rated small SUV, MotorWeeks driver's choice, and a MotorTrend comparo winner plus their SUVOTY so it's been the darling of the media as of late.
 
Happy shopping.

#7052 of 7326 Re: 2010 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring Package (Canada) vs. 2009 Santa Fe GLS [cbmorton] by thegraduate

Oct 26, 2009 (5:07 pm)

Replying to: cbmorton (Oct 26, 2009 6:51 am)
Sorry; forgot trim lines are different in different world-markets. Hyundai USA doesn't offer a GL model, only GLS (2.7), SE and Limited (3.3).

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