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Replying to: mf15 (Sep 23, 2009 10:13 am) The 2010 Outlander will be out in October. A couple of things to keep in mind. If you want to tow 3500lbs with the Outlander, you will need to go with one of the 3.0l V6 trims,4WD, and also purchase the towing package (would also be required for the RAV-4). Mitsubishi states that they have increased the power and also improved fuel economy of their V6. While not as powerful(230hp vs. 269hp) or fuel-efficient (17/23 (2009 model) vs. 19/26) as the 3.5l V6 in the RAV-4, it does come mated to a decent 6-speed auto with manual shift control available (useful when towing). Finally, it appears Mitsubishi has improved the Outlander's interior and added some stitched leather surfaces on the doors and the dash. The Outlander is often overlooked in this crowded segment. I find this unfortunate, since it is a rather competent vehicle. I can only recommend test-driving the Outlander, as well as other vehicles recommended in this thread that might fit your bill. In my humble opinion, a test-drive is usually worth far more than the reviews being posted by the automotive press and personal opinions like my own. 
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Replying to: psychogun (Sep 23, 2009 7:16 pm) |
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Replying to: psychogun (Sep 23, 2009 7:16 pm) For a compact? 19mpg? That's the best they can do? I test drove the more efficient 4 banger with the CVT, and didn't like the transmission at all. Nissan executes the CVT much better. Poor mileage and a small gas tank kept me away from the V6.
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Replying to: psychogun (Sep 23, 2009 7:16 pm) to look at, with advanced tech annd I think a new awd sys. The look of the new front end might have to grow on me. Old Mike
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 24, 2009 7:49 am) As stated, Mitsubishi appears to have addressed this in the 2010 Outlander 3.0l V6, which is expected to be more fuel efficient thanks to improvements in the engine and transmission (we'll still have to see how it translates in the real world). One thing to consider, Mitsubishi tends to tune their engines and transmissions more aggressively (i.e. shorter gear ratios and higher rev shift points) than most car makers (Mazda does this too). This contributes to the Outlanders poor fuel economy but certainly ups the fun factor. This is part of the reason why I think a test drive is a good idea. That way one can weigh the pros and cons of each vehicle with ones specific needs in mind. The graduate also makes an excellent point regarding dealer network density. If you have to drive 30+ miles just to get to a dealership, that should weigh on the purchase decision as well. However, Mitsubishi is highly unlikely to ever leave the U.S. market. They have reiterated their commitment over and over, but the largely unfounded rumors persist.
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Replying to: mf15 (Sep 24, 2009 7:59 am)  Mitsubishi's poor sales are actually a positive for you as it will make the dealership more willing to negotiate price with you. Granted, if you are planning to trade the car in less than five years later, the worse than average depreciation will be a factor to consider. http://www.intellichoice.com/reports/vehicleReport/vehicle_nmb/41013/2009/Mitsub- ishi/Outlander From a reliability perspective, the Outlander should not give you any troubles. http://www.edmunds.com/new/2009/mitsubishi/outlander/101068582/reliability.html
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Replying to: psychogun (Sep 24, 2009 8:43 am) I actually like the new EVO face, unlike mf15. Mazda does indeed gear very short, even in 6th gear my Miata's rpm are too high at highway speeds. It needs a 7th, maybe even 8th, cruising gear! The Miata's range is also poor, with a small fuel tank, but I can accept that given that car's mission. I just hate having to get gas every 5 days. My van has a 21 gallon tank and can go nearly twice as far between fillups. |
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Replying to: psychogun (Sep 24, 2009 9:07 am) I signed up to be alerted when it becomes available. My current car, a '99 Galant with 151K miles, has been more reliable than any car I've ever owned, including a Camry, Sentra, and Mazda MX-3. That 3L V6 is a very nice engine.
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Replying to: fushigi (Sep 24, 2009 5:20 pm)  They shouldn't get ahead of themselves, though, the current Outlander doesn't have S-AWC, but rather plain ol' AWC, without the S. They use the same name for the system in the EVO, though I doubt it's the same (more a brand name I suspect). I like the EVO grille and those 7 spoke rims are also nice.
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Replying to: mf15 (Sep 21, 2009 5:52 pm) my wife looked looked at MZX, Edge Limited, and Escape Limited. there are huge improvements in the '09 Escape, all for the good. the 2 things you can't get in the escape are cooled/heated front seats (heated only) and power rear lift gate. even with 20% more horsepower, it is getting about 20% better fuel mileage. |
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