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#6965 of 7355 Re: RAV4 v. CRV v. Forester Post Test-Drives [abbotsbury]
Aug 30, 2009 (9:36 am)
For what it is worth, I have a 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited and I have had nothing but problems with it. The same problems that thousands of others have had and Toyota refuses to address the issues or pay to have them fixed. I will never again buy a Toyota and I would advise anyone looking at Toyotas to look at the forum on Toyota Sienna door problems to see how awful service and support have been from Toyota. I am on this forum because at 85,000 miles and about $6,000 in repairs, I have had enough and am looking to get rid of this car and buy a Subaru or a Honda
#6966 of 7355 Murano, RDX, MDX and Outback
Sep 06, 2009 (4:56 pm)
Test drove these four vehicles on Friday. I'm not in love with any of them, but I still like the Murano the best of the pack.
Murano - Smooth ride. Difficult visibility to sides and rear. Handles adequately.
RDX - Not surprisingly the best handling of the bunch. Very jittery ride though. Off my list.
MDX - Nice ride and handling, but just too big for what I'm looking for right now. Width of the vehicle made me feel like I was driving a van.
2010 Outback - Again, nice ride and adequate handling. However, vehicle felt "long" to me from the cockpit. Still too much of a wagon for my taste I guess.
#6967 of 7355 Traded CR-V for RAV4
Sep 06, 2009 (8:08 pm)
Time came to trade the 03 CR-V 4WD.
We really did plan to get a new 09 CR-V. But my wife insisted on driving some other brands. Just for comparison. So we did just that. We test drove several and didn't talk much about money until we decided on the car we liked the best.
The 09 CR-V was a little quieter inside than her 03, but drove about the same, still stiff riding. We both had trouble seeing out the back .
The Rogue was a strong runner and I liked the CVT tranny. Ride was a bit stiff and the rear vision was terrible. The rear vision is what killed it for us.
The Forester drove nice, great vision out the back, but was somewhat sluggish. To get stuff she wanted, like rear seat cup holders and privacy glass, the Premium model was the only way to get them. Seems that was nearly $3K more. It was nice but had stuff we didn't care to pay for. The dealer had a "Here it is, take it or leave it" attitude. And we weren't all that impressed with his car.
We both liked the RAV4. The tranny shifts smoother than the other two, and the 2.5 I4 engine feels stronger and quieter. It has less road noise than the CR-V and about the same as the Forester. It was the best in that class of car, for us, so we traded for it.
I don't care for the spare on the back door, but we were used to that with the 03 CR-V. FWIW, I prefer a rear door to a hatch. Most of the time when I need to get something from the back I just crack the door. Also If there is a dog back there, they are less likely to escape. When a hatch is open, it is open all the way across and all the way up.
There are also good arguments for a hatch, but we just prefer the door. I wish my Pilot had a door instead of the hatch.
It handles well in local driving and on the X-Way. Gas mileage is about 2 mpg better than the CR-V we traded in. My wife gets 24-25 mpg local driving and the one road trip we took with 700 miles on the clock yielded 33.5 mpg. 228 miles and 6.8 gallons of gas. Speed was 58 mph going and 63 mpg on the return.
It is just as comfortable and rides as well and is a bit quieter inside as our 03 Pilot. I'm thinking seriously of trading the Pilot for a Rav-4 with the V6. Only reason I would want the 6 cylinder is for the extra towing capacity.
Of course the extra 100 or so horses would be nice sometimes.
#6968 of 7355 Re: Murano, RDX, MDX and Outback [loach]
Sep 08, 2009 (8:53 am)
The 2010 Outback is actually a tiny bit shorter than the 2005-2009 models.
It compares more to the Venza and the upcoming CrossTour, though.
#6969 of 7355 Re: Traded CR-V for RAV4 [kipk]
Sep 08, 2009 (8:55 am)
You can actually option up a RAV4 without the spare tire on the back now. You get a donut though, under the cargo floor.
The V6 is a sweet engine, we have that 2GR-FE in our minivan.
If you get a 2nd one, look for one without the spare on the back and definitely opt for the V6.
#6970 of 7355 Re: Murano, RDX, MDX and Outback [ateixeira]
Sep 08, 2009 (10:45 am)
Oh yeah - I forgot that I actually drove a Venza that same day too! I suppose the fact that I forgot tells something about what I thought about it. Decent car - wouldn't say that I necessarily ruled it out, but it certainly didn't wow me in any way. I actually thought the rear and side visibility was a little better in the Venza than the Murano, which surprised me. The ride wasn't as bad as Consumer Reports' review made it out to be, but the steering assistance was way too much for my taste - felt like slop.
As for the Outback, I think I prefer the styling of the Tribeca. Probably should have driven one of those while I was there. Dealer only had 3 in inventory though and the were all pretty stripped-down base models. Tribecas don't seem to sell much at all here and the dealers don't seem to stock them. Not sure if they don't sell because the dealers don't stock them or the dealers don't stock them because they don't sell. A chicken vs. egg question.
#6971 of 7355 Re: Murano, RDX, MDX and Outback [loach]
Sep 08, 2009 (11:42 am)
I wonder if you drove a Venza with a small wheel package. IIRC they offer 18" to 20". The latter is pretty massive - that's a lot of unsprung weight, though I think Nissan (or is it Infiniti) also offers huge wheel options.
I had a Tribeca loaner for a week, it was nice. Navi, DVD, the whole 9 yards, so of course it was nice. I'd definitely opt for the 2008+ 3.6l H6 engine, though, which added power and no longer required premium fuel. Rear visibility also improved slightly.
Go check one out. Recent used ones can be real bargains.
#6972 of 7355 Re: Murano, RDX, MDX and Outback [ateixeira]
Sep 08, 2009 (11:59 am)
The Venza I drove was pretty loaded up so I'm pretty sure it had the 20" wheels, although I'll admit I wasn't paying close attention to that. The top of the line Murano LE also has 20's.
#6973 of 7355 Re: 6-speeds and direct injection: American makes [thegraduate]
Sep 08, 2009 (2:57 pm)
maybe there are more differences than the number of speeds in the transmission, 6 vs 4, but my wife's 09 escape is averaging 3.5+ mpg better than the '04, even with the addition of 40 more hp.
#6974 of 7355 Re: Forester vs CRV [sporin71]
Sep 08, 2009 (3:01 pm)
thanks for the review and let us know what you buy.