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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: A few more [stevedebi] by ateixeira
Feb 03, 2009 (12:07 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Jan 15, 2009 1:01 pm)

I'm not sure what methodology the EPA uses to measure space, though I thought they included any open spaces (not lidded/enclosed ones, AFAIK).
 
Weird thing is some models with moonroofs lose cargo capacity, and you don't often (*) pile things all the way up to the ceiling.
 
* - I say that but I did that on a 10-day trip I just took from DC to Florida and back. We had 2 cars but the group split up so I took 6 passengers and all their luggage (2 big bags, 4 carry-ons, 2 boxes, and a garment bag and most of it fit behind the 3rd row so everyone had room to stretch out). I'm pretty sure I would have need to put the bigs bags on the roof of any crossovers discussed here.
 
One of my neighbors just traded her Suburban (one generation back) for a new Chevy Traverse and she's already wondering about the cargo space. Our kids are on the same b-ball team so I'll check it out after the next game.
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Murano vs. MDX vs. ? by loach
Mar 25, 2009 (11:08 am)
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In about a year, I'll be passing my '01 Pathfinder 4WD down to my son, and I'm starting to think about what to replace it with. Part of the fun of car buying for me is taking about a year or so to analyze it to death, test drive several candidates, and talk on forums about it until I get carpal tunnel syndrome. I have virtually no brand loyalty, which makes it even more fun (although I do have a little brand disloyalty in certain cases). So let's get started.
 
I like the rough size of my Pathy, and I'm thinking new AWD crossover for my next vehicle. This will be my daily driver. I don't need a 3rd row - our family hauler is my wife's Acadia so if I end up with something with a 3rd row it will be folded flat 99% of the time. Don't suggest another Lambda - I like my Acadia but I'm looking for something a little smaller and more fun to drive. Probably won't go above $45k. My initial shopping list is as follows - purely based on looking at and sitting in vehicles at the auto show (no test drives yet):
 
1. Nissan Murano (seems like best overall value, like the styling but maybe not in love with it)
2. Acura MDX (styling has grown on me, heard it handles great but MPG seems unimpressive and not sure it's worth the extra $$$)
3. Several other vehicles vaguely on my radar, in no particular order:
- Ford Edge (haven't heard much good about handling/driving characteristics)
- Subaru Tribeca (odd interior and not in love with exterior)
- 2010 Chevy Equinox or GMC Terrain (intriguing, but who knows at this point)
- Hyundai Santa Fe (nice looking, good value, maybe too boring)
- Lexus RX (fun factor probably not there)
- Toyota Highlander (seems too much like a family hauler to me)
- Toyota Venza (seems like a Camry wagon to me)
- Mazda CX-7 and CX-9 (CX-7 too cramped, CX-9 too big - maybe I need a CX-8!)
- Mitsubishi Endeavor (blah styling and will Mits go the way of Isuzu?)
- Volvo XC90 (I doubt it - maybe the new XC60 or whatever it is)
- Volkswagon Touareg (crappy reliability history)
 
Thoughts? Suggestions?
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Re: Murano vs. MDX vs. ? [loach] by psychogun
Mar 25, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: loach (Mar 25, 2009 11:08 am)

If I may also suggest the Subaru Forester XT and the Mitsubishi Outlander XLS (instead of the Endeavor).
Mitsubishi will not be leaving the US despite the rumors (pundits have been predicting the tri-diamonds departure for nearly a decade now).
Both of the above are fun to drive and have decent interior space and utility. While neither of these CUV's can claim to have interior materials quality that could compete with an Acura, they compare nicely to that of the Murano (in my humble opinion).
 
In the end, however, I feel that a decently lengthy test-drive will become the determining factor. So, go drive 'em all. You have a year, right?
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Re: Murano vs. MDX vs. ? [psychogun] by ateixeira
Mar 25, 2009 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: psychogun (Mar 25, 2009 11:29 am)

I agree, I'd go for something smaller and more fun.
 
Think small and sporty, some ideas:
 
Saturn Vue Redline
Subaru Forester XT (turbo)
Acura RD-X
BMW X3
 
Practical is fine but you already have a Lambda, have some fun too!
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Re: Murano vs. MDX vs. ? [ateixeira] by costello1
Mar 25, 2009 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 25, 2009 12:04 pm)

I have a 07 Outlander and love it . Great car. This is my second Mitisi . I had a 02 Montero Spt and several Isuzu Troopers and my Outie is the tops!! Look at Mitishi , you will be surprised!!
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Re: Murano vs. MDX vs. ? [ateixeira] by loach
Mar 25, 2009 (1:51 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 25, 2009 12:04 pm)

After sitting in them at the auto show, I'm pretty sure I don't want to go as small as the RDX or X3. They just felt too cramped to me. I don't recall sitting in the Forester. I guess I'm probably looking mostly at midsize as opposed to compact CUVs. Even the Murano's relatively modest cargo space bothers me a bit.
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Re: Murano vs. MDX vs. ? [loach] by coldcranker
Mar 25, 2009 (2:48 pm)
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Replying to: loach (Mar 25, 2009 1:51 pm)

Get an '09 TaurusX. Just the right size. Great fuel economy. Safety. Handling and steering is great. Ford doesn't advertise it much, though its one of the best things there is out there. My '05 Freestyle is a lower-powered version of it (and the TaurusX has better noise/vibration isolation engineering on the front suspension), and the Freestyle is very capable, smoothe, and quiet. Drive one and you'll see.
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Re: Murano vs. MDX vs. ? [coldcranker] by thegraduate
Mar 25, 2009 (9:44 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Mar 25, 2009 2:48 pm)

I doubt a big station wagon with 3 rows and "safe but bland" handling is what he's after. I'm a fan of the Ford, personally, but it doesn't sound like what he's after.
 
I'd suggest a Venza, by Toyota, but it likely won't be a great handler either.
 
Infiniti EX 35 might be snug, but it is worth "trying on." Also check out the FX 35; they start in the low 40s.
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Re: Murano vs. MDX vs. ? [loach] by rick2456
Mar 26, 2009 (4:44 am)
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Replying to: loach (Mar 25, 2009 11:08 am)

I have both a 07 Santa Fe SE AWD and an 08 Veracruz SE AWD after having had Isuzu Trooper/Ascender and Ford Freestyles. I checked out almost all the vehicles in your list, but the rebates and warranty won me over. I love both vehicles, but the Santa Fe has a smaller turning circle and shorter wheelbase, making it a bit easier to park. If I had to give one up, it would be the Veracruz as I love the storage compartments behind the back seats, something the 7 passenger Veracruz does not have. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Murano vs. MDX vs. ? [coldcranker] by loach
Mar 26, 2009 (5:42 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Mar 25, 2009 2:48 pm)

I looked at the TaurusX/Freestyle when I bought my wife's Acadia. It's a fine vehicle, but not at all what I'm looking for this go 'round.

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