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#6838 of 7122 Re: Easy big fella [coldcranker] by thegraduate Jan 14, 2009 (9:25 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 14, 2009 8:19 am) At 6'5", the only thing I can fit in the third row of is a van, hence the "big ones" comment.
#6839 of 7122 Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [aggie10] by thegraduate Jan 14, 2009 (9:25 am)
Replying to: aggie10 (Jan 14, 2009 8:46 am) You didn't start a problem - you're just fine! Good luck!
#6840 of 7122 Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [volkov] by ateixeira Jan 14, 2009 (9:41 am)
Replying to: volkov (Jan 13, 2009 1:23 pm) For the OP's purposes, he's looking to downsize without truly downsizing, so my original response was appropriate, me thinks.   Plus, I can carry a full sheet of 4'x8' plywood inside, hatch closed, and you can't.   Of course, you could probably tow my Sienna on a trailer, and there's no way I try the same.   grad: thanks for trying to defend me, but no need, volkov and I have had this gentlemanly debate for a while now, and he's always been civil and fair.   Having said that, a point volkov raised, here:   Cargo space is slightly less and is nowhere near as useful behind the 3rd row as the Suburban offers   Only reinforces the minivan suggestion. No crossovers can even come close to the amount of space behind the 3rd row of a van. Not even in the same league.   You may have to stack those suitcases, but you could probably fit several. Good luck getting ONE large suitcase behind a crossover's 3rd row.       HYSTERICAL - it's the same umbrella! Replies to this message: coldcranker (Jan 14, 2009 7:37 pm) ateixeira (Jan 15, 2009 9:02 am)
#6841 of 7122 Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [volkov] by ateixeira Jan 14, 2009 (9:44 am)
Replying to: volkov (Jan 13, 2009 1:23 pm) BTW I think you won the Subaru Crew Diet Challenge....
#6842 of 7122 Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [aggie10] by almatti Jan 14, 2009 (11:39 am)
Replying to: aggie10 (Jan 12, 2009 1:44 pm) With 60k on your clock on a 04 Sub, so what the warranty expires. Does vehicle run well, Maintain it. Does the vehicle serve it's purpose : Keep it. Your NEW vehicle gets old quickly too. The money you put into maintaining the existing vehicle will be much less than laying out new $$$ for a new one if you consider downpayment and monthly loan payments. But I'm sure you know that allready.   Honestly, with the pain going thru the economy, ask yourself: Do I NEED a New Vehicle. Besides, the deals will be sooooo much better in few months "down the road" [excuse the pun]. Car Manufacturers' tongues have only just begun to hang out of their mouths.
#6843 of 7122 Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [ateixeira] by coldcranker Jan 14, 2009 (7:37 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 14, 2009 9:41 am) ateixeira said: "Only reinforces the minivan suggestion. No crossovers can even come close to the amount of space behind the 3rd row of a van. Not even in the same league."   My Freestyle can swallow up a suitcase behind the third row seats. I know some other (Suzuki XL7, Higlander, etc.) crossovers can't. Freestyle is very close to a minivan capacity. TaurusX is the same. Flex is even better. The Flex is really a crossover that nails minivans right in the diaper-bag. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jan 15, 2009 9:02 am)
#6844 of 7122 Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [coldcranker] by ateixeira Jan 15, 2009 (9:02 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 14, 2009 7:37 pm) Found a pic....   https://www.tituswillfordparts.com/images/FS%20Cargo%20Net.jpg   (I tried but it would not let me embed the pic in my post)   Pretty good for a crossover, but I'm not sure you could fit luggage for all 6/7 passengers.   I don't agree with the "close to minivan capacity" part, though:   Suburban: 45.8 cubic feet Sienna: 44 cubic feet Freestyle: 22.5 cubic feet   The van is close, but the Freestyle has about half the space.   Before volkov chimes in, the Suburban's cargo area has a longer floor than either.   Feel free to compare other crossovers...I'm tired of Googling them for now.
#6845 of 7122 A few more by ateixeira Jan 15, 2009 (9:08 am)
From an Edmunds comparo...   http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=132786/pageId=149- 505   Chevy Traverse: 24.4 cubic feet Ford Flex: 20 cubic feet   So the Freestyle falls right in the middle of those two, but a Suburban owner would likely note the loss of space. Replies to this message: stevedebi (Jan 15, 2009 1:01 pm) coldcranker (Jan 15, 2009 2:20 pm) ateixeira (Feb 03, 2009 12:07 pm)
#6846 of 7122 Re: A few more [ateixeira] by stevedebi Jan 15, 2009 (1:01 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 15, 2009 9:08 am) "Chevy Traverse: 24.4 cubic feet Ford Flex: 20 cubic feet    So the Freestyle falls right in the middle of those two, but a Suburban owner would likely note the loss of space. "   A lot of reviews (including Edmunds) got the Freestyle cargo space wrong with the 3rd seat up. They were not counting the "well" into which the FS 3rd seat goes when it is flat. I never understood how they managed that, but there were two different values floating around, one at about 20 ft, and the other about 23 or 24 (IIRC).   I mention this because I suspect the Flex (like the FS and TX), have a significant "well" behind the 3rd seat - and some articles may not have that space included. So your flex may be about 24 Cu ft back there as well. Replies to this message: coldcranker (Jan 15, 2009 2:20 pm) ateixeira (Feb 03, 2009 12:07 pm)
#6847 of 7122 Re: A few more [stevedebi] by coldcranker Jan 15, 2009 (2:20 pm)
Replying to: stevedebi (Jan 15, 2009 1:01 pm) Thanks for the research. I formerly had a massive Windstar minivan, which I took the seats out of and created a vast empty volume. Very efficient, those box shapes. My '05 Freestyle is also a box shape, and the vehicle is 200" long, so its doing about all it can do within that length. I don't want a longer vehicle. The old Windstar came in at 202" long I think. Bigger vehicles are too hard to park. Also, the hood on a Freestyle is more substantial than on a minivan (Sienna or Windstar), so there is a better crash crumple zone there, too. Not having the short sloping hood as a minivan does will sacrifice a few inches, but the Freestyle compromises that in the direction of safety. The Flex is the same way, as you know that substantial snout (hood) takes up some length, but not much more. Take a look at the GMC Acadia (Traverse, Outlook, Enclave, too) an notice they could have maybe shortened the hood length a bit, allowing more passenger volume (cab forward), but its pretty good the way it is.

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