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Crossover SUV Comparison

7127 messages,  Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 8:31 PM

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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [thegraduate] by ateixeira
Jan 13, 2009 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 12, 2009 6:49 pm)

I'll 2nd the minivan suggestion.
 
Sorry, I said the M word again.
 
Seriously, though, the two desires here are space and value pricing, and the simple fact is a minivan wins big in both areas.
 
Going from a Suburban to a Lambda you lose about 20 cubit feet.
 
Going from a Suburban to a Sienna you actually gain 10+ cubic feet.
 
That plus a van will be a whole lot cheaper. $22-35k instead of $30-40k or so.
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Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [ateixeira] by volkov
Jan 13, 2009 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 13, 2009 11:25 am)

Don't start this argument again Juice. That "10+" extra cubic feet of cargo space only with all seats down. Cargo space is slightly less and is nowhere near as useful behind the 3rd row as the Suburban offers. Trust me, as I've easily piled our luggage into the Yukon only to have to fiddle, re-load and organize to transport it in a Sienna rental. Plus, large dog crates won't fit in the back of a Sienna without leaving 2 kids at home.
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Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [volkov] by thegraduate
Jan 13, 2009 (2:38 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Jan 13, 2009 1:23 pm)

The only one "arguing" is you, and axtieria wasn't the one who "started it," I was. The poster didn't give specifics on what they carry, mentioned nothing of large dog crates or how many kids they toted. All I did was suggest alternatives, and don't recall needing anyone's approval in doing so in the Member Agreement at Edmunds. Sure, as the owner of a Suburban, they may certainly like the cargo/seating layout they currently have, no doubt. Checking out your options is a smart thing to do when spending this much money, however! That's all I wanted them to do.
 
To the original poster, if interested (and you may not be), check out the SUVs vs. Minivans forum. To do so, click this link, it will take you directly to it.
 
 
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Easy big fella by volkov
Jan 13, 2009 (5:10 pm)
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How quickly things change in the crossover world - a year ago when it was the hottest site around, you'd get strung up for mentioning the "m" word. Now you get strung up for saying minivans may not be perfect for everyone.
I was responding to Juice (ateixera) and made no reference or disrespect to your post so please stand down to alert level yellow. This was a joke referring to an old very gentlemanly disagreement we had between the two of us long ago, when I was still seriously considering the AWD Sienna. BTW, Juice and I are close - he even knows how much weight I've lost in the past 3 months so I'm sure he didn't need anyone to come to his defence. I was trying to be helpful, in part because as you say, the OP hasn't told us how many passengers and what gear they would be hauling. If he requires 3 rows and a long cargo area, my comments will hopefully be helpful. If he doesn't, I don't think I did any harm. For the record, we personally want AWD and I have lamented here before that I wish there were more AWD minivan options. The Sienna is the only deal in town, and up here in Canada models and options are limited and pricing exhorbitant. That's why I didn't get one as our city family hauler, well, that and the fact my wife doesn't want a minivan.
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Re: Easy big fella [volkov] by thegraduate
Jan 13, 2009 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Jan 13, 2009 5:10 pm)

Yep - I've posted here for about 4 years now; I remember when this bad boy got started! No disrespect intended; I just didn't want someone else taking my heat!
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Re: Easy big fella [thegraduate] by coldcranker
Jan 13, 2009 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 13, 2009 6:56 pm)

I love minivans. There, I said it. I'm still a man. I sometimes drive my '05 F150 work truck, so my manhood is intact. However, I also love my '05 Freestyle (similar to the current TaurusX) because it is like a minivan without being a minivan. Very roomy. Great MPG. I can stealthily drive the Freestyle, a crossover that handles better than minivans, with almost as much utility. Nobody suspects I'm a minivan lover.
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Re: Easy big fella [coldcranker] by steve_ HOST
Jan 13, 2009 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 13, 2009 7:22 pm)

It doesn't count without those loveable minivan doors.
 
We may downsize to a *gasp* hatchback on our next ride though. Maybe Nissan will remake the Axxess by then. There's been a minivan here for two decades now (well, one per decade).
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Re: Easy big fella [coldcranker] by thegraduate
Jan 13, 2009 (8:56 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 13, 2009 7:22 pm)

I drive a "sissy import sedan" (Accord 4-cyl) and manage to be a man. I learned to parallel park and maneuver in a minivan, and manage to be a man.
 
If anyone would like to challenge that based on the fact that I'm pro-minivan, meet me in the back-alley and we'll fight. I'll bring 6 of my large friends, since we'll all fit in the Odyssey. You can bring 4 big ones and a couple of kids in your crossover. I like my odds.
 
Tongue-in-cheek, of course.
 
TheGraduate.
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Re: Easy big fella [coldcranker] by larryqw
Jan 13, 2009 (9:16 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 13, 2009 7:22 pm)

I drive a Taurus X for the same reason as coldcranker.
 
I love the utility of a wagon or minivan with car line handling and reasonable gas mileage. The T-X slightly removes some of the stigma for a guy. I call it the "Daddy-wagon".
 
Oh, and the Taurus X is a super vehicle as well. Besides my family and kids loving to ride in the car, all my friends want to carpool with me when we go mountain biking. I can get six people and six big bikes on the car (four in back, two on top).
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Re: Easy big fella [thegraduate] by coldcranker
Jan 14, 2009 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 13, 2009 8:56 pm)

thegraduate said: "...You can bring 4 big ones and a couple of kids in your crossover...."
 
Thats the thing about the Freestyle and TaurusX. That rear-most seat third seat is usable by anyone under 6' tall. I've used mine that way. It really is 7-passenger.

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