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7127 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 8:31 PM
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Replying to: aggie10 (Jan 12, 2009 1:44 pm) How many seats do you need? Coming from the Sub, you will find the Taurus or even the Flex a bit lacking in cargo room behind the 3rd row. The GM crossover options offer a little more trunk room but still a downsize from the Sub. I know that we never saw a crossover or even a minivan that would comfortably take both our dogs behind the 3rd row like the Suburban does even though for some the published cargo volume was similar. If you can pile your luggage or cargo vertically, this is less of an issue, but our dogs don't like standing on each other. Do you have the option that we are considering, namely semi-retire the Suburban and keep it for the big family trips, but use a smaller 7 passenger crossover as the usual daily driver? Driving around town cargo capacity etc becomes much less important. With current trade in values, it's not as if the Sub is worth that much on the trade-in market. I would be very hesitant about buying a new Sub for just that reason - they are still expensive, but unlike it was 5 years ago, the depreciation on these big SUV's is now abysmal. |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 12, 2009 6:49 pm) Sorry, I said the M word again.  Seriously, though, the two desires here are space and value pricing, and the simple fact is a minivan wins big in both areas. Going from a Suburban to a Lambda you lose about 20 cubit feet. Going from a Suburban to a Sienna you actually gain 10+ cubic feet. That plus a van will be a whole lot cheaper. $22-35k instead of $30-40k or so.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 13, 2009 11:25 am) |
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Replying to: volkov (Jan 13, 2009 1:23 pm) That's all I wanted them to do. To the original poster, if interested (and you may not be), check out the SUVs vs. Minivans forum. To do so, click this link, it will take you directly to it. 
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How quickly things change in the crossover world - a year ago when it was the hottest site around, you'd get strung up for mentioning the "m" word. Now you get strung up for saying minivans may not be perfect for everyone. I was responding to Juice (ateixera) and made no reference or disrespect to your post so please stand down to alert level yellow. This was a joke referring to an old very gentlemanly disagreement we had between the two of us long ago, when I was still seriously considering the AWD Sienna. BTW, Juice and I are close - he even knows how much weight I've lost in the past 3 months so I'm sure he didn't need anyone to come to his defence. I was trying to be helpful, in part because as you say, the OP hasn't told us how many passengers and what gear they would be hauling. If he requires 3 rows and a long cargo area, my comments will hopefully be helpful. If he doesn't, I don't think I did any harm. For the record, we personally want AWD and I have lamented here before that I wish there were more AWD minivan options. The Sienna is the only deal in town, and up here in Canada models and options are limited and pricing exhorbitant. That's why I didn't get one as our city family hauler, well, that and the fact my wife doesn't want a minivan.
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Replying to: volkov (Jan 13, 2009 5:10 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 13, 2009 6:56 pm) |
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 13, 2009 7:22 pm)  We may downsize to a *gasp* hatchback on our next ride though. Maybe Nissan will remake the Axxess by then. There's been a minivan here for two decades now (well, one per decade). |
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 13, 2009 7:22 pm) If anyone would like to challenge that based on the fact that I'm pro-minivan, meet me in the back-alley and we'll fight. I'll bring 6 of my large friends, since we'll all fit in the Odyssey. You can bring 4 big ones and a couple of kids in your crossover. I like my odds.  Tongue-in-cheek, of course. TheGraduate.
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 13, 2009 7:22 pm) I love the utility of a wagon or minivan with car line handling and reasonable gas mileage. The T-X slightly removes some of the stigma for a guy. I call it the "Daddy-wagon". Oh, and the Taurus X is a super vehicle as well. Besides my family and kids loving to ride in the car, all my friends want to carpool with me when we go mountain biking. I can get six people and six big bikes on the car (four in back, two on top).
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