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Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [aggie10] by coldcranker
Jan 12, 2009 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: aggie10 (Jan 12, 2009 1:44 pm)

aggie10, The Traverse is exceptional. Chevy put direct injection in that powerful V6 this year. That is one well-built husky SUV. Its not cheap, as it goes for around $30,000. For a little cheaper, you can get an '09 TaurusX crossover, plenty big enough for most folks, and a very good performer. The TaurusX uses a derivative of the Volvo XC90 chassis, very solid and well built. The TaurusX engine won an award from Wards Automotive, and it shares a transmission with the Traverse (joint GM-Ford transmission in there).
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Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [aggie10] by thegraduate
Jan 12, 2009 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: aggie10 (Jan 12, 2009 1:44 pm)

60,000 miles isn't many, but if you need lots of room, but not the "truck" abilities (4WD, 3500lbs+ towing capacity), consider a minivan. They're much cheaper than crossover vehicles, and always offer more cargo/passenger space.
 
Just a thought.
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Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [aggie10] by volkov
Jan 12, 2009 (7:17 pm)
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Replying to: aggie10 (Jan 12, 2009 1:44 pm)

If you don't need big towing capacity, the new extended Expedition was nice and quite comparable in interior room. We held off on that one due to the integrated hitch and less towing capacity than our 3/4 ton Yukon XL because we want it as a tow vehicle for a good size trailer.
How many seats do you need? Coming from the Sub, you will find the Taurus or even the Flex a bit lacking in cargo room behind the 3rd row. The GM crossover options offer a little more trunk room but still a downsize from the Sub. I know that we never saw a crossover or even a minivan that would comfortably take both our dogs behind the 3rd row like the Suburban does even though for some the published cargo volume was similar. If you can pile your luggage or cargo vertically, this is less of an issue, but our dogs don't like standing on each other.
Do you have the option that we are considering, namely semi-retire the Suburban and keep it for the big family trips, but use a smaller 7 passenger crossover as the usual daily driver? Driving around town cargo capacity etc becomes much less important. With current trade in values, it's not as if the Sub is worth that much on the trade-in market. I would be very hesitant about buying a new Sub for just that reason - they are still expensive, but unlike it was 5 years ago, the depreciation on these big SUV's is now abysmal.
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Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [thegraduate] by ateixeira
Jan 13, 2009 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 12, 2009 6:49 pm)

I'll 2nd the minivan suggestion.
 
Sorry, I said the M word again.
 
Seriously, though, the two desires here are space and value pricing, and the simple fact is a minivan wins big in both areas.
 
Going from a Suburban to a Lambda you lose about 20 cubit feet.
 
Going from a Suburban to a Sienna you actually gain 10+ cubic feet.
 
That plus a van will be a whole lot cheaper. $22-35k instead of $30-40k or so.
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Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [ateixeira] by volkov
Jan 13, 2009 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 13, 2009 11:25 am)

Don't start this argument again Juice. That "10+" extra cubic feet of cargo space only with all seats down. Cargo space is slightly less and is nowhere near as useful behind the 3rd row as the Suburban offers. Trust me, as I've easily piled our luggage into the Yukon only to have to fiddle, re-load and organize to transport it in a Sienna rental. Plus, large dog crates won't fit in the back of a Sienna without leaving 2 kids at home.
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Re: Changin from a Suburban....Please Help.... [volkov] by thegraduate
Jan 13, 2009 (2:38 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Jan 13, 2009 1:23 pm)

The only one "arguing" is you, and axtieria wasn't the one who "started it," I was. The poster didn't give specifics on what they carry, mentioned nothing of large dog crates or how many kids they toted. All I did was suggest alternatives, and don't recall needing anyone's approval in doing so in the Member Agreement at Edmunds. Sure, as the owner of a Suburban, they may certainly like the cargo/seating layout they currently have, no doubt. Checking out your options is a smart thing to do when spending this much money, however! That's all I wanted them to do.
 
To the original poster, if interested (and you may not be), check out the SUVs vs. Minivans forum. To do so, click this link, it will take you directly to it.
 
 
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Easy big fella by volkov
Jan 13, 2009 (5:10 pm)
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How quickly things change in the crossover world - a year ago when it was the hottest site around, you'd get strung up for mentioning the "m" word. Now you get strung up for saying minivans may not be perfect for everyone.
I was responding to Juice (ateixera) and made no reference or disrespect to your post so please stand down to alert level yellow. This was a joke referring to an old very gentlemanly disagreement we had between the two of us long ago, when I was still seriously considering the AWD Sienna. BTW, Juice and I are close - he even knows how much weight I've lost in the past 3 months so I'm sure he didn't need anyone to come to his defence. I was trying to be helpful, in part because as you say, the OP hasn't told us how many passengers and what gear they would be hauling. If he requires 3 rows and a long cargo area, my comments will hopefully be helpful. If he doesn't, I don't think I did any harm. For the record, we personally want AWD and I have lamented here before that I wish there were more AWD minivan options. The Sienna is the only deal in town, and up here in Canada models and options are limited and pricing exhorbitant. That's why I didn't get one as our city family hauler, well, that and the fact my wife doesn't want a minivan.
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Re: Easy big fella [volkov] by thegraduate
Jan 13, 2009 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Jan 13, 2009 5:10 pm)

Yep - I've posted here for about 4 years now; I remember when this bad boy got started! No disrespect intended; I just didn't want someone else taking my heat!
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Re: Easy big fella [thegraduate] by coldcranker
Jan 13, 2009 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 13, 2009 6:56 pm)

I love minivans. There, I said it. I'm still a man. I sometimes drive my '05 F150 work truck, so my manhood is intact. However, I also love my '05 Freestyle (similar to the current TaurusX) because it is like a minivan without being a minivan. Very roomy. Great MPG. I can stealthily drive the Freestyle, a crossover that handles better than minivans, with almost as much utility. Nobody suspects I'm a minivan lover.
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Re: Easy big fella [coldcranker] by steve_ HOST
Jan 13, 2009 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 13, 2009 7:22 pm)

It doesn't count without those loveable minivan doors.
 
We may downsize to a *gasp* hatchback on our next ride though. Maybe Nissan will remake the Axxess by then. There's been a minivan here for two decades now (well, one per decade).

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