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7122 messages, Last post on Nov 09, 2009 at 1:24 PM
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Replying to: fred25 (Sep 03, 2008 6:17 pm) Thanks for all your help! |
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The topic is comparing crossover SUVs. We are not comparing political theories, imports vs. domestic or pet conspiracy theories. Let's stick to the designated topic.  tidester, host SUVs and Smart Shopper
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Replying to: tidester (Sep 04, 2008 10:50 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Sep 04, 2008 2:21 pm) That may be so but patriotism is still not the topic here. I think most people know where the cars are being built and can weigh the domestic versus import factor for themselves. Clearly, there may issues regarding who is building the vehicles, say Toyota vs. GM vs. BMW but the issue here is not Japan vs. U.S. vs. Germany etc. It's CUV vs. CUV. tidester, host SUVs and Smart Shopper
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Replying to: tidester (Sep 04, 2008 2:32 pm) 
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 05, 2008 12:42 pm) ateixeira, You can be patriotic toward any country of your own choosing. I'm not restricting you or anybody. I personally know of one person who will choose the CX-9 over the Acadia simply due to the fact that the CX-9 is Japanese. Since both vehicles are good ones, in this case, they can't go wrong. Of course, nothing today equals the combination of roominess, handling, and fuel economy as my '05 Freestyle, including the current TaurusX (Freestyle descendant) that gets worse fuel economy in the same body. Smaller CUVs get worse or equal gas mileage as mine. To me, the fact that it is a Ford is icing on the cake. In the end, most of us will take the best vehicle for our needs/wants and just live with the country-of-origin issue if we don't like it. With the Freestyle, I didn't contribute to the trade deficit at least.
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Replying to: coldcranker (Sep 05, 2008 1:31 pm) Ford makes the EcoSport there, though, but it's not sold here.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 05, 2008 2:05 pm) Does Ford market the Freestyle/TaurusX in Brazil? That EcoSport looks like it would do well in the U.S., similar to Ford's Escape, a least a little bit. Wikipedia says the EcoSport is selling well inside Brazil. A lot of countries like Australia I know, and maybe Brazil, place a lot of value on body-on-frame tougher vehicles like what Jeep does in the U.S. instead of the expensive unit-body vehicles.
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Replying to: coldcranker (Sep 05, 2008 7:12 pm) The Fiesta does well, and the Focus. The Fusion is very low volume but it's offered. That gives you an idea what's in demand, mostly subcompacts and compacts. The EcoSport was a break-out hit, though. It's the best-selling "utilitario", which basically means any thing that isn't a car. It's based on the Fiesta, so it's pretty tiny. It looks like a scaled down Escape. I think a crossover the size of an Escape would stand a chance, but the T-X would just be too big and costly. I did the math last time I visited, and gasoline comes out to roughly $6.12 per gallon. Diesel is just $4.83 per, but it's not the low-sulfur variety. They sell Ethanol for just $4.14 per gallon, so vehicles capable of running on flex-fuel, i.e. gas or ethanol, are in demand now. It's a very different market, obviously. Cars are priced much higher, as is the fuel, so you can choose between two sizes: small and smaller.
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I am getting 33 MPG with my 2008 Rouge, fully loaded doewn so long as I keep it at 60 MPH and just at 2000 RPM!
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