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| The Lambda clones did great in the www.iihs.org crash tests. In addition to that, their 4,800 lb weight should obliterate almost anything else it hits. In truth, though, the unit body construction with crumple zones should be less harsh on other vehicles than the skewering effects of a low set of frame rails slicing another car in two from body-on-frame SUVs such as the Expedition or Suburban. | |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 29, 2008 9:21 am) |
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Replying to: coldcranker (Aug 29, 2008 1:11 pm) CR just tested the Cobalt SS and they averaged 22mpg on premium fuel, not terrible but not exactly anything to write home about, and this is an under 3000 lb car. Imagine a 4000+ lb crossover. Their Caliber actually managed 25mpg on regular fuel, so more mileage on cheaper fuel. Hmm, a Dodge Journey SS, anyone? |
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Replying to: tigerlily3 (Aug 29, 2008 4:17 pm) It has a little bit more power than the CR-V, plus it weighs less. The Forester PZEV models make 175hp and it's among the lightest crossovers, so it performs adequately. It's a IIHS Safest Pick, and won 2 comparos in Motor Trend, and earned Consumer Reports highest rating, so the media seems to like it, too. Other strengths include excellent visibility. Weaknesses? The passenger seat is set low, for some reason, and the cup holders are square (why is beyond me). The base engine is not fast - but you can get the turbo XT model, just be ready to pay more and they recommend (not required, but still) premium fuel. |
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OK, between the 2008 Santa Fe, 2008 Rav 4 and 2009 Subaru Forester, can anyone suggest pros and cons for all 3?
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 29, 2008 4:53 pm) ...and the square cup holders is beyond idiotic.
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Replying to: azerafan (Aug 31, 2008 5:53 pm) I'd go for the Rav4 if you want the excellent, high fuel economy, 3.5L V6 with 6-speed automatic, since it has great acceleration and smoothness. If you go 4-cylinder, the Subaru is my choice. There is one thing about the SantaFe that is great: its long warranty period. All good choices, so just get the one that is most economically sensible to you, the cheapest.
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Replying to: coldcranker (Sep 01, 2008 4:18 pm) I don't see the big mileage difference Forester X gets 20/26 Rav4 - 6 gets 19/26 Forester XT 19/24 Seems a dead heat really unless you are driving very high mileage. There is no doubt that the V6 and 5EAT in the Toyo are a very smooth combination. If it is only about FE and you don't need AWD then the FWD Rav becomes an even better option. If you really need AWD the Subaru set-up is much smoother in loose traction than the Rav. Another thing to consider is the Rav's swing gate. Will you be doing much loading of the trunk while parallel parked? If so, I'd avoid it like the plague. Not such a big deal if you are always in a parking lot situation, but it is still heavy, and my boys couldn't reliably close it. We know folks who own the Rav and love the vehicle with the exception of the hatch.
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Replying to: elizabeth15 (Aug 31, 2008 7:40 pm) Square front cup holders are very dumb but the vehicle has given me several pleasant surprises: * mileage better than expected * throttle/engine is responsive with no lag at all * LED lighting in center bin, console, and even rear cup holders * both lights and radio fade out rather than cutting off abruptly * cruise control says "cruise" and "cruise set" so no guessing * fade the dash lights and the trip computer and radio also fade, nice * steering wheel has all audio and cruise buttons, even a mute button * hood struts lift the hood for you We liked it when we bought it but since then every week or so I discover one new feature that I like that I didn't even know about. Dislikes: 1. square cup holders are made for another planet, where drinks come in square cups. 2. passenger seat is too low, basically matches the driver's seat at the very lowest setting. 3. It's not mine. It's my wife's.  I'd ask for a 5th ratio but to be brutally honest this transmissions is actually better then the 5EAT in our Sienna, which is the same powertrain the RAV4 gets. Subaru is now selling a diesel Forester in europe with a 6 speed manual - sweeeet! |
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