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#6719 of 7126 Re: [coldcranker] by volkov Aug 13, 2008 (11:29 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Aug 13, 2008 9:17 am) Depends what you are towing. Small to moderate sized weekend boat maybe. Some of us tow camping trailers. You better be towing a pop-up or at most a hybrid if that's your limit. Travel trailers capable of sleeping 6-7 (to reflect the seating capacity) are going to weigh that much dry, and be well beyond it loaded to camp and with the weight of passengers and gear subtracted from your towing capacity. (Don't forget that max towing is based on 150lb driver and otherwise empty vehicle). Add to that the rule of thumb to keep your trailer to 85% of max limit for extended towing. Go to the RV boards and you'll see tons of threads where the old timers point out that even some tent trailers are over the limit of the V-6's towing them.
#6720 of 7126 Re: [coldcranker] by baggs32 Aug 13, 2008 (6:07 pm)
Replying to: coldcranker (Aug 13, 2008 9:17 am) For 2009 Ford is making its trailer sway control standard on all of its BOF SUVs and trucks. As far as I can tell they are not even offering it on unibody vehicles, even the Flex which can tow 4500 lbs also IIRC. If I were towing, I'd want that extra safety feature and would sacrifice an mpg or two for it.
#6721 of 7126 by kirstie_h HOST Aug 18, 2008 (12:00 pm)
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#6722 of 7126 Rogue vs murano by psfod3 Aug 25, 2008 (8:19 pm)
I was looking at a rogue SL awd with the premium pkg. The stcker was about $25,100. It gets 26 mpg hyw. Has a 4cyl and can only tow 1000lbs. The mark up off of invoice was only around $1,000. and the dealer was not ready to take alot off sticker saying the cars are selling. The murano SL ( no pkg) had a sticker around $31,000 has a 6cyl but gets 23 mpg hyw. and can tow up to 3500 lbs. the dealer would give me a 09 Murano awd SL for $26,500 wich is a heavy dicount saying they are not selling as well. with this heavy discount it seems that the price difference is only around $2,200 for a much more stable powerful suv. The mpg hyw is almost the same. As far as the Murano needing premium fuel, I am told it is only recommended. Is this a no brainer or am I missing something here? Replies to this message: volkov (Aug 25, 2008 10:23 pm) ateixeira (Aug 27, 2008 10:03 am)
#6723 of 7126 Re: Rogue vs murano [psfod3] by volkov Aug 25, 2008 (10:23 pm)
Replying to: psfod3 (Aug 25, 2008 8:19 pm) Murano is much thirstier in city driving. Still, the relative discount more than makes up for the difference in cost of fuel over the lifetime you expect. The question is, how long will you drive it, and could it even have a lower resale than the Rogue? Not a stretch given the sudden shift in buying habits which borders on hysteria. I personally think that from an emotional standpoint, the Murano is much nicer. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Aug 27, 2008 10:03 am)
#6724 of 7126 Re: Rogue vs murano [volkov] by ateixeira Aug 27, 2008 (10:03 am)
Replying to: volkov (Aug 25, 2008 10:23 pm) Not to mention the Rogue just feels too small to be all that useful. I'm not sure if it has any more useful space than a Versa does. Plus you can barely see out of it, the blind spots are so bad.   I kind of like the styling, but it's definitely form over function.   My wife thought it looked like an egg and never even sat inside.   The CVT and fuel efficiency appealed to me, but we were shopping for her car, so we never even drove the Rogue. I did sit in one at a car show.   The Murano is better sized, but to be honest I think if I had to buy a Nissan it would be a Versa with the 6 speed manual transmission, or maybe an Altima.
#6725 of 7126 2009 Upgrades by ateixeira Aug 27, 2008 (10:04 am)
Let's wake up this thread a bit...what upgrades are here for 2009?   I read that the Traverse will get 288hp with the optional dual exhaust, plus the tow rating was just increased.   The CX9 supposedly got a trip computer standard, which to me is a must-have.   What else is new? Replies to this message: mattandi (Aug 28, 2008 6:30 am)
#6726 of 7126 Re: 2009 Upgrades [ateixeira] by mattandi Aug 28, 2008 (6:30 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 27, 2008 10:04 am) Is direct injection coming to all the Lambdas?   There are some new kids on the playground. Journey, Flex, yada yada. I'm sure everyone agrees those are upgrades.
#6727 of 7126 EcoBoost engine by ateixeira Aug 28, 2008 (6:37 am)
When is this thing due? It looks promising...   http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2008/08/fords-35-ecoboost-v6.html   Looks like it'll go in several Fords, I wonder if Mazda will get one for the CX9 as well?   $700 for 340hp sounds good, and it even runs on regular octane. The timing may be bad, though.   Also, I'm sort of more anxious to see what they could do to a smaller, more fuel efficient engine. Perhaps start with the new 2.5l used in the Escape. That makes about 175hp now, with twin turbos it could beat the Escape's own V6. Replies to this message: baggs32 (Aug 28, 2008 8:54 am) coldcranker (Aug 28, 2008 6:52 pm) ateixeira (Aug 29, 2008 7:41 am) ateixeira (Aug 29, 2008 7:37 am) baggs32 (Aug 29, 2008 9:23 am) and 4 more...
#6728 of 7126 Re: EcoBoost engine [ateixeira] by baggs32 Aug 28, 2008 (8:54 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 28, 2008 6:37 am) The Explorer America concept had, according to Ford, a 2.0L EcoBoost motor in it that put out 275 HP and 285 ft-lbs of torque. FE is improved 20-30 percent over the current 4.0L V6 in the Explorer.   Supposedly a 2.5L EB puts power output over 300HP but I've never seen anything "official" about that.   Click here to see the info about the 2.0L EB.   Oh, and the first one, the 3.5L V6, goes in the Lincoln MKS sometime next year. I think in the Spring. Anyone? No word on what will get the first I4 or when but they recently announced that they are accelerating those plans. Replies to this message: coldcranker (Aug 28, 2008 6:52 pm) ateixeira (Aug 29, 2008 7:41 am) ateixeira (Aug 29, 2008 7:37 am) baggs32 (Aug 29, 2008 9:23 am) ateixeira (Aug 29, 2008 9:29 am) and 3 more...

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