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#6715 of 7126 Re: [robm2] by bobw3 Aug 12, 2008 (3:34 pm)
Replying to: robm2 (Aug 12, 2008 1:59 pm) you will not be saving any money, as the savings in gas are outweighed by the depreciation in the vehicle.   Depends on how many miles you drive. You may end up saving thousands of dollars per year by unloading the SUV, so even if you lose $5000 in selling the SUV, you'll make that up in a couple of years in gas savings, again, depending on the miles you drive, the price of gas, and the MPG difference of the new car. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Aug 13, 2008 6:01 am) coldcranker (Aug 13, 2008 9:17 am) ateixeira (Aug 13, 2008 9:40 am) volkov (Aug 13, 2008 11:29 am) baggs32 (Aug 13, 2008 6:07 pm)
#6716 of 7126 Re: [bobw3] by ateixeira Aug 13, 2008 (6:01 am)
Replying to: bobw3 (Aug 12, 2008 3:34 pm) That's why your true needs should determine what you end up with, just as they should have the day you bought the vehicle new.   I think the people complaining the loudest are the ones that didn't need a large SUV in the first place.   Folks who tow boats and really haul heavy loads will just grin and bear it. In fact I bet they'll be happy when the posuers trade down and lower demand for oil, dropping prices further. Replies to this message: coldcranker (Aug 13, 2008 9:17 am) ateixeira (Aug 13, 2008 9:40 am) volkov (Aug 13, 2008 11:29 am) baggs32 (Aug 13, 2008 6:07 pm)
#6717 of 7126 Re: [ateixeira] by coldcranker Aug 13, 2008 (9:17 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 13, 2008 6:01 am) All this talk about how towing means you have to drive an old dinosaur body-on-frame SUV, thats mostly wrong. The Acadia/Outlook/Traverse/Enclave CUV clones with unit bodies and better MPG, will tow up to 4,500 lbs, which should be enough for most poeple. When not towing in those CUVs, you should be able to cruise on the highway at 25 MPG if you take it easy at about 60 to 65 mph. My short-bed '05 F150 V8 2wd, by comparison, can't seem to get over 20 MPG no matter what I do. Of course, if you get 4wd versions of CUVs or SUVs, then subtract 1.5 MPG. Point is, most people can just get a CUV (the subject of this forum). Replies to this message: ateixeira (Aug 13, 2008 9:40 am) volkov (Aug 13, 2008 11:29 am) baggs32 (Aug 13, 2008 6:07 pm)
#6718 of 7126 Re: [coldcranker] by ateixeira Aug 13, 2008 (9:40 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Aug 13, 2008 9:17 am) 4500 lbs is pretty decent, I guess I had my friend's race car and trailer in mind, and his is way over that limit.   Call it a middle weight, I suppose.
#6719 of 7126 Re: [coldcranker] by volkov Aug 13, 2008 (11:29 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Aug 13, 2008 9:17 am) Depends what you are towing. Small to moderate sized weekend boat maybe. Some of us tow camping trailers. You better be towing a pop-up or at most a hybrid if that's your limit. Travel trailers capable of sleeping 6-7 (to reflect the seating capacity) are going to weigh that much dry, and be well beyond it loaded to camp and with the weight of passengers and gear subtracted from your towing capacity. (Don't forget that max towing is based on 150lb driver and otherwise empty vehicle). Add to that the rule of thumb to keep your trailer to 85% of max limit for extended towing. Go to the RV boards and you'll see tons of threads where the old timers point out that even some tent trailers are over the limit of the V-6's towing them.
#6720 of 7126 Re: [coldcranker] by baggs32 Aug 13, 2008 (6:07 pm)
Replying to: coldcranker (Aug 13, 2008 9:17 am) For 2009 Ford is making its trailer sway control standard on all of its BOF SUVs and trucks. As far as I can tell they are not even offering it on unibody vehicles, even the Flex which can tow 4500 lbs also IIRC. If I were towing, I'd want that extra safety feature and would sacrifice an mpg or two for it.
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#6722 of 7126 Rogue vs murano by psfod3 Aug 25, 2008 (8:19 pm)
I was looking at a rogue SL awd with the premium pkg. The stcker was about $25,100. It gets 26 mpg hyw. Has a 4cyl and can only tow 1000lbs. The mark up off of invoice was only around $1,000. and the dealer was not ready to take alot off sticker saying the cars are selling. The murano SL ( no pkg) had a sticker around $31,000 has a 6cyl but gets 23 mpg hyw. and can tow up to 3500 lbs. the dealer would give me a 09 Murano awd SL for $26,500 wich is a heavy dicount saying they are not selling as well. with this heavy discount it seems that the price difference is only around $2,200 for a much more stable powerful suv. The mpg hyw is almost the same. As far as the Murano needing premium fuel, I am told it is only recommended. Is this a no brainer or am I missing something here? Replies to this message: volkov (Aug 25, 2008 10:23 pm) ateixeira (Aug 27, 2008 10:03 am)
#6723 of 7126 Re: Rogue vs murano [psfod3] by volkov Aug 25, 2008 (10:23 pm)
Replying to: psfod3 (Aug 25, 2008 8:19 pm) Murano is much thirstier in city driving. Still, the relative discount more than makes up for the difference in cost of fuel over the lifetime you expect. The question is, how long will you drive it, and could it even have a lower resale than the Rogue? Not a stretch given the sudden shift in buying habits which borders on hysteria. I personally think that from an emotional standpoint, the Murano is much nicer. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Aug 27, 2008 10:03 am)
#6724 of 7126 Re: Rogue vs murano [volkov] by ateixeira Aug 27, 2008 (10:03 am)
Replying to: volkov (Aug 25, 2008 10:23 pm) Not to mention the Rogue just feels too small to be all that useful. I'm not sure if it has any more useful space than a Versa does. Plus you can barely see out of it, the blind spots are so bad.   I kind of like the styling, but it's definitely form over function.   My wife thought it looked like an egg and never even sat inside.   The CVT and fuel efficiency appealed to me, but we were shopping for her car, so we never even drove the Rogue. I did sit in one at a car show.   The Murano is better sized, but to be honest I think if I had to buy a Nissan it would be a Versa with the 6 speed manual transmission, or maybe an Altima.

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