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Replying to: coldcranker (Jul 24, 2008 10:23 am) |
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I was leaving the gym and saw a pearl white one. The old guy driving it must have noticed me trying to get a closer look from the next lane because he pulled away like he didn't want to be bothered. He must not have realized he was being chased by something German (wow, I sound so dangerous). As I was passing I realized how large this car is. It was huge. The veiw from the back looks nice, but I disiked it from every other angle. It may still grow on me, but for now it looks like the big box it is.
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Replying to: kellz (Jul 26, 2008 8:16 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jul 27, 2008 3:02 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Jul 21, 2008 5:31 pm) Anyone else experience this in a VC? I haven't driven it yet and was wondering if the handling was a little sloppy or if he's just not used to it yet. But it has been in his garage nearly a year now. My normal driving the 08 VC handling feels as if the -vehicle has the capability to do more if you push it to the limit type - of feeling. I hope I am making sense. I have not ,pushed it to the limit to where I would see the ESC Electronic Stability Control indicator blinking on the dash when engaged. I think 07 VC was Hyundai's first year on this vehicle. Maybe I am just too biased but I haven't owed a new car, just used cars (95 Altima SE and an old school 73 Mustange) until now. Though I get to feel some new cars from race simulators through the PC or game console. |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jul 28, 2008 7:20 am) I like the slightly narrower width of the Flex; makes it easier to park. Its not quite so portly (aka, "fat") as the others, yet has great interior space. The rear legroom of the Flex is huge compared to the others. This would make a great limo! I like Edmunds comparison tool, so I'll bring in the TaurusX (Freestyle) and Dodge Journey. Here it is: Add TaurusX and Journey to the comparison -- click here. Note how the Flex has about the same exterior dimensions as the TaurusX(Freestyle), yet the only big advantage of the Flex is HUGE rear seat legroom! I do like the extra headroom up front of the Flex, too. The extra exterior inch width of the Flex over the TaurusX does not seem to be put to good use, as the doors of the Flex must be thicker than the TaurusX doors.
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jul 28, 2008 3:00 pm) The Odyssey .3" longer, 1.2" wider, and .8" higher than the Flex. While the Flex has 4" more 2nd row legroom, the Odyssey has 8" more 3rd row legroom. Also, 9" more 2nd row hiproom and 7" more in the 3rd row. And the storage behind the 3rd row is 20CuFt for the Flex and 38.4 for the Odyssey. That's what I mean by design efficiency. But you're right that in comparison to an Acadia, the Flex measures up pretty good. The Journey is a foot shorter, so it's hard to compare.
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jul 29, 2008 9:31 am) Here's a challenge: Somebody name another unit-body vehicle (no truck-framed BOF vehicles allowed) that weighs more than the Lambda vehicles. I don't think mankind has ever produced a heavier unit body vehicle. The Chevy Traverse is listed at 5,015 lbs for the AWD version, and 4,722 for the 2WD version. By the way, for the Lambda 2WD models to get 17/24 EPA MPG scores is amazing for a 4700 lb vehicle. My '05 Ford F150 2WD weighs 100 lbs less, and it has enough iron in it to build a battleship, and only gets about 20 on the highway. (OK, a small battleship.) |
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| It looks like the unibody Q7 and GL550 V8 versions do weigh 5,400 lbs each, but they are not bigger in footprint than a Lambda anyway. I almost don't want to count those, since most people can't afford their $60,000 price tag, but they are the most massive unibody vehicles produced, unless anyone knows of any others. | |
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Looks like the expert vehicle analysts at Car and Driver have tested the Flex, so we can get a better picture of where it stands relative to the CX-9, TaurusX, Edge, Acadia/Outlook/Traverse/Enclave, Freestyle, etc. Interesting observations made. The latest full test drive of the Flex appears in the Sept. '08 issue of Car and Driver, out now. I chuckled at some of the odd lines they had in there about the Flex: ---- styling is "T-square chic" ---- looks like a billboard starter kit ---- Look for the hilarious salesman-customer simulated conversation in there where they go over the Flex, Edge, and TaurusX, near the beginning of the article. Car and Driver hated the seats (looks like plastic bags, uncomfortable) and they say that understeer starts too soon in a turn. Otherwise, the Flex looks like quality materials, is very quiet, and feels very solid. For some reason, even though the GMC Acadia is slightly heavier, the Acadia is faster 0-60 than the Flex with about the same horsepower. The Flex and Acadia use the same transmission (maybe a little difference in gear ratios in there), so I guess the Acadia engine must have better low-end torque. It might be Acadia's direct injection, something the Flex unfortunately doesn't have in the current model. Fuel economy between the Flex and Acadia is about the same, with the 2009 Acadia possibly pulling ahead with the direct injection, so the Acadia/Outlook wins with better acceleration in a heavier vehicle, with lower fuel consumption on top of all that compared to the Flex. |
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