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#6639 of 7126 Re: Gas prices killing the crossover too? [coldcranker] by baggs32 Jun 26, 2008 (4:06 pm)
Replying to: coldcranker (Jun 26, 2008 2:51 pm) I was referring to the height when I said "shorter". I should have been clearer.   I wonder if wind noise will be a problem with such a simple shape.   Read the reviews. It's as quiet as a tomb inside. And not because it looks somewhat like one.   I personally think it looks fantastic in person and would love to own one. Price will be the big issue for us when we're due for a new vehicle in a few months. Now that Ford has opted to package more into the 3 trim levels and offer fewer a la carte options, getting one equipped the way I want drives the price close to $40k. I can get all the space I need in an Explorer or a TX and save about $10k and $5k respecitvely in doing so. That pays for a lot of gas.
#6640 of 7126 Re: Gas prices killing the crossover too? [robr2] by ateixeira Jun 30, 2008 (7:42 am)
Replying to: robr2 (Jun 26, 2008 6:14 am) Well, maybe, but keep in mind I commute in a Mazda Miata and my weekend/family car is a Toyota Sienna.   Ironically the only Subaru in my driveway is my wife's Forester.   The Taurus X was not even close to what she wanted. We were looking for something significantly smaller than the minivan, and the Forester is a full 20" shorter in length than the X. Plus we put fuel efficiency as a top priority, though it had to be a wagon bodystyle and have AWD. EPA city for the Forester is 20mpg vs. 15 for the X, a huge difference.   People don't realize how compact the Forester is - it's shorter than the Chevy Cobalt in overall length. This tidy size plus excellent visibility make it a cinch to maneuver and park, yet it's still roomy inside (maybe that's why people think it's big?).   Basically we already have a big car.   To be honest if I shop at the Ford dealer to replace the van (not any time soon, mind you) I would drive a Flex. I like the gigantic Mini Cooper look it has.
#6641 of 7126 Re: Gas prices killing the crossover too? [coldcranker] by ateixeira Jun 30, 2008 (8:40 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Jun 24, 2008 12:23 pm) a structurally optimized platform costing less than the Volvo or Land Rover versions   Don't say that around volvomax. I'll let the two of you debate this, here's his position:   http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ee9c851/35585 Replies to this message: coldcranker (Jun 30, 2008 11:16 am) ateixeira (Jul 01, 2008 11:04 am)
#6642 of 7126 Re: Gas prices killing the crossover too? [ateixeira] by coldcranker Jun 30, 2008 (11:16 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 30, 2008 8:40 am) ateixeira, Thanks for the link to volvomax above. I mostly agree with him. It is true that the Volvo has more boron steel than the cheaper Freestyle, as I've seen a Ford engineering presentation that revealed what they did. However, the Freestyle crash tests very well, it does contain Ford custom structural optimizations, and it has retained much of the Volvo XC90 structural tricks as well. Also, the Freestyle has side curtain airbags that wrap around over your head. I paid $22,500 for my Freestyle instead of $40,000 for the Volvo XC90, for very good safety features. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jul 01, 2008 11:04 am)
#6643 of 7126 Re: Gas prices killing the crossover too? [coldcranker] by ateixeira Jul 01, 2008 (11:04 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Jun 30, 2008 11:16 am) Sounds like a good value.   We really wanted something compact this time around. Big inside, but small outside, for sure.   I did test drive a Freestyle before we purchased our Minivan.   Oops I said the M-word again.
#6644 of 7126 Press Request by KarenS HOST Jul 01, 2008 (1:18 pm)
A reporter from a large local newspaper is looking to speak to recent minivan buyers and minivan shoppers that ended up purchasing an SUV or crossover. If you’re interested in speaking to the reporter, please contact Jonathan Wahl at jwahledmunds.com with your daytime contact information no later than July 3 2008. Replies to this message: coldcranker (Jul 02, 2008 3:56 pm) ateixeira (Jul 03, 2008 8:56 am) volkov (Jul 03, 2008 9:44 am)
#6645 of 7126 Re: Press Request [KarenS] by coldcranker Jul 02, 2008 (3:56 pm)
Replying to: KarenS (Jul 01, 2008 1:18 pm) A Press Request, eh? That interview will go something like this: "I thought minivans were associated with soccer moms and diapers, so I bought a crossover to save my image of a tough person, even though the most daring thing I do is watch golf on TV."   In reality, a minivan will usually do the job better than a crossover. My Freestyle, however, is almost a boxy minivan anyway, so I go crossover withough giving up much. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jul 03, 2008 8:56 am) volkov (Jul 03, 2008 9:44 am)
#6646 of 7126 Re: Press Request [coldcranker] by ateixeira Jul 03, 2008 (8:56 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Jul 02, 2008 3:56 pm) Changing diapers is pretty daring. Replies to this message: volkov (Jul 03, 2008 9:44 am)
#6647 of 7126 Re: Press Request [ateixeira] by volkov Jul 03, 2008 (9:44 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 03, 2008 8:56 am) I've done it one handed with a sleeping baby in the other arm...that's daring!
#6648 of 7126 my bil... by explorerx4 Jul 10, 2008 (4:46 pm)
bought an '06 mountaineer premier. he said he rented an acadia, but got stuck in some snow and had to pay $110 to get towed 5 feet forward.

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