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7120 messages,  Last post on Nov 06, 2009 at 8:28 AM

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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: 2009 Pilot [vad1819] by thegraduate
Apr 21, 2008 (9:39 pm)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Apr 21, 2008 4:58 pm)

nxs wasn't arguing, he was simply replying. Cut 'em some slack - no need to get snippy!
 
I would imagine that production wasn't going at full tilt right off the bat for the Acadia, etc, right?
 
I'm not sure why this is being discussed, though. Because the McDonald's hamburger sells the most, is it the best? How about the F-150 - is it the best, most competitive pickup truck? These things sell the most, but that proves nothing.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [albook] by bobw3
Apr 22, 2008 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: albook (Apr 21, 2008 3:23 pm)

"Honda doesn't have an SUV? Where have you been in this discussion? The Pilot is an SUV,"
I said that Honda doesn't have a CUV, not SUV.
 
Fact is that Honda has both the Pilot and the Odyssey, so it doesn't need to have a bulked up CUV trying to function as a minivan like GM.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [albook] by ateixeira
Apr 22, 2008 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: albook (Apr 21, 2008 3:23 pm)

Another good thig about the lambdas is they don't really drive that big
 
This is purely subjective, but do you really think so?
 
I felt that they did drive big. Beefy, substantial in a good way, but big for sure.
 
Visibility may have made it seem worse to me, and as an owner I'm sure you'd become better at judging where the corners are with time.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [ateixeira] by nxs138
Apr 22, 2008 (3:07 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 22, 2008 7:31 am)

Part of the reason why we didn't get the Acadia was that my wife thought it drove "big", as you mention. She didn't get that sensation in the CX-9.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [bobw3] by albook
Apr 22, 2008 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Apr 22, 2008 6:25 am)

"I said Honda doesn't have a CUV, not an SUV."
 
I feel a bit silly for not checking over my message before posting. But the Pilot is a CUV. Period. It's unibody. Styling doesn't change what something really is. It's a CUV and no one is fooled. Honda wasn't trying to pull a fast one. They just wanted styling that reflects that the Pilot has more capability than, say, a CX-9.
 
And yes. It is a fact that Honda has both the Odysey and the Pilot. So the Pilot doesn't have to copy the lambdas and act like an SUV and a minivan. The Lambdas do it well, though.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [thegraduate] by albook
Apr 22, 2008 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 21, 2008 9:39 pm)

"These things sell the most, but that means nothing"
 
That makes no sense. Obviously there is something that one has over the other that draws buyers to the product- sometimes little more than image (like a burger from Mickey D's). And sometimes the product is better. I'm not a big Camry fan, but I will admit that it's a better product than the last gen. Malibu. I don't think the line is always that clear, but that's an example.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [baggs32] by albook
Apr 22, 2008 (3:35 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 21, 2008 5:43 pm)

"It was a pleasant suprise to me..."
 
I won't say all that, but I though it wasn't ugly. It looked okay. Maybe it was becasue I saw that Fairlane concept in Chicago 3-4 years ago, so I knew what to expect. For right now, it's nowhere near my list, but then again, I'm not really in the market right now. In fact, two months ago, I replaced my 90's M3 with an '02 Mustang Cobra- and that's my play-car. So as you can see, I'm not too focused on that.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [albook] by baggs32
Apr 22, 2008 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Apr 22, 2008 3:24 pm)

But the Pilot is a CUV. Period. It's unibody.
 
Your point is valid but Honda markets it as an SUV. Period.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [baggs32] by albook
Apr 22, 2008 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 22, 2008 5:27 pm)

Yes, Honda does. That doesn't change what it is. Then again, it changed what the Pacifica and Freestyle were.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [albook] by freealfas
Apr 22, 2008 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Apr 22, 2008 3:24 pm)

"But the Pilot is a CUV. Period. It's unibody. Styling doesn't change what something really is. It's a CUV and no one is fooled."
 
ahhh the world of absolute's is back...oppinion veiled as fact...
 
so to keep with your loosely termed logic, what do you consider the cherokee, grand cherokee???
 
from Edmund's....
 
"Unlike most other traditional SUVs from domestic automakers, the Jeep Grand Cherokee has always been built using a carlike unibody chassis rather than a body-on-frame design."
 
your opinions are strictly your's in some if not most cases... PERIOD... as one can indeed make an argument the Pilot is an SUV.
 
edmund's yet again;
 
"the Pilot tucks eight-passenger seating into an easy-to-maneuver midsize SUV body."
 
If I were you I'd let the Pilot stay in the SUV end of the pool as if you don't you can't say the Lambda's are the only 8 passenger option's out there in CUV land...
 
LOL

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