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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 17, 2008 9:58 am) This is why imports do so well when they have a plant here. They pay their workers well, and don't have to deal with the UAW! Could you imagine how much better the domestic brands would do if there was no UAW? They could actually build a great car and profit from it at the same time! |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 16, 2008 9:38 am) The '08 Touareg is definitely great looking, but we needed a 7 passenger vehicle. The GM triplets (Saturn/GMC/Buick) were under powered & too heavy, and the fit/finish wasn't there considering the price point they were asking for...and I'm not a fan of GM's history of the lack reliability. Ultimately, the 3rd row seats were a joke in just about everything under $40k...and that's totally inexcusable at that price point. I'm 5' 11", and the only 7 seater that I could fit in with decent leg room was the CX-9 (granted, the GM triplets fit was ok, but the execution was inferior to the CX-9). The revised Subaru Tribeca & the new Highlander had great reliability, but again, 3rd row seating was poor. Then the magazine reviews were published (Car & Driver, Motor Trend, Automobile, Road & Track, Autoweek), and selected CX-9 over the rivals. The power was uprated for '08 in the CX-9 from the previous year as well, using Ford's 3.7 V-6, up from the previous 3.5 liter unit. Unlike it's platform sister, the Ford Flex, the CX-9 utilizes a superior Aisin transmission, which had a proven track record in the VW Touareg (if you can recall, when the Touareg came out, it too won MT's Truck of the Year). Turning radius on the CX-9 is extremely good, especially for it's size. Knowing that I was on a limited budget, the goal for me was to attain the best bang for the buck. The CX-9 proved to be better packaged than the Acura MDX (third seating is marginal at best) & out performed the V6 Buick Enclave (overweight & underpowered).
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Replying to: bobw3 (Apr 17, 2008 6:49 am) Not quite. While the Pilot has some nice interior dimensions, it falls a bit short in cargo space. And the third row still probably has nothing in comparison to larger CUVs (which makes sense, considering they are larger). The Lambdas which are 10-12 inches longer, don't have quite the interior volume of minivans- which are larger- come very close, in fact, having more than anything else beside the Suburban. To tell the truth, I think GMC designed a better Pilot (or Pilot XL) in the Acadia. It's more spacious and comfortable than anything in the class. It's one of the most powerful and capable. And styling is muscular yet sleek- something the Pilot could improve on. For once I think honda could learn from GM.
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Replying to: marcovio (Apr 17, 2008 12:29 pm) The 3.7L was a great idea for Mazda. What is even better is that they build the engine completely, not Ford. |
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Replying to: albook (Apr 17, 2008 3:33 pm) Overall space, yes. Passenger space, no. Also, comfort is subjective. Not everyone will agree on what is comfortable and what is not. I think the CX-9 is really comfortable, however, there have been a few to post here that it is not.
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Replying to: marcovio (Apr 17, 2008 12:29 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 17, 2008 3:45 pm) What CUV has more passenger space? "Also, comfort is subjective" True. But if third rows were in the question, the only thing comparable is the Taurus X. |
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Replying to: mtnman1 (Apr 17, 2008 3:57 pm)
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Replying to: josephd05 (Apr 18, 2008 7:37 am) Correction...memory seat
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Replying to: albook (Apr 17, 2008 3:33 pm) Honda has the Odyssey for those needing more space than the Pilot. Again, lambdas are a foot longer than the Pilot so they should have a lot more space inside. Yes, there's about 5CuFt of extra cargo space behind the 3rd row of the lambdas and maybe an inch of extra 3rd row legroom, but I'd expect a lot more than that for the foot of extra length. The lambdas try to be a minivan and SUV in the same vehicle. I think the Pilot is a better SUV than the lambdas and the Odyssey a better minivan than the lambdas. A lot of it depends on the real-world use a person is really going to get out of a vehicle. I'd say that most folks are going for the SUV/CUV look over a minivan purely out of looks and vanity. If that's the case then just get what looks good to you but avoid any logic discussions 
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