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Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 16, 2008 11:35 am) |
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Replying to: albook (Apr 16, 2008 2:59 pm) One would think so.... On a side note, Honda further distanced themselves from their Acura counterpart by quite a bit. They look nothing alike, and the MDX is more driver oriented (SH-AWD), and less useful (awful 3rd row and cargo cap.) The 09 Pilot is way bigger and more useful, however, it has a completely different drive train, 4WD system included. |
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Replying to: tifighter (Apr 16, 2008 1:51 pm) The Edmunds First Drive review keeps mentioning the word "utility" over and over, so this Pilot is obviously trying to lure those who would rather have efficiency over style and power. I suspect the ads will show all the cute little storage spaces... I don't like it all that much, but a Honda is a Honda...
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Replying to: nxs138 (Apr 16, 2008 6:27 pm)
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Replying to: nxs138 (Apr 16, 2008 6:27 pm) The problem is that the new Pilot is not more efficient or powerful then the competition. I also did see that the Edmunds review used the word "utility" a lot as well. My question is, how much more "utility" does it really have over the competition? I suspect the ads will show all the cute little storage spaces... I think those little storage spaces are over rated, for every car. Usually, people fill those little places with junk that does not need to be in the car to begin with, and then they leave it there until they sell or trade their car. IMO they are worthless. |
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Oh no, what's vad gonna do?  Let's see how long this lasts and if it affects supply of the Lambdas.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 17, 2008 9:58 am) This is why imports do so well when they have a plant here. They pay their workers well, and don't have to deal with the UAW! Could you imagine how much better the domestic brands would do if there was no UAW? They could actually build a great car and profit from it at the same time! |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 16, 2008 9:38 am) The '08 Touareg is definitely great looking, but we needed a 7 passenger vehicle. The GM triplets (Saturn/GMC/Buick) were under powered & too heavy, and the fit/finish wasn't there considering the price point they were asking for...and I'm not a fan of GM's history of the lack reliability. Ultimately, the 3rd row seats were a joke in just about everything under $40k...and that's totally inexcusable at that price point. I'm 5' 11", and the only 7 seater that I could fit in with decent leg room was the CX-9 (granted, the GM triplets fit was ok, but the execution was inferior to the CX-9). The revised Subaru Tribeca & the new Highlander had great reliability, but again, 3rd row seating was poor. Then the magazine reviews were published (Car & Driver, Motor Trend, Automobile, Road & Track, Autoweek), and selected CX-9 over the rivals. The power was uprated for '08 in the CX-9 from the previous year as well, using Ford's 3.7 V-6, up from the previous 3.5 liter unit. Unlike it's platform sister, the Ford Flex, the CX-9 utilizes a superior Aisin transmission, which had a proven track record in the VW Touareg (if you can recall, when the Touareg came out, it too won MT's Truck of the Year). Turning radius on the CX-9 is extremely good, especially for it's size. Knowing that I was on a limited budget, the goal for me was to attain the best bang for the buck. The CX-9 proved to be better packaged than the Acura MDX (third seating is marginal at best) & out performed the V6 Buick Enclave (overweight & underpowered).
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Replying to: bobw3 (Apr 17, 2008 6:49 am) Not quite. While the Pilot has some nice interior dimensions, it falls a bit short in cargo space. And the third row still probably has nothing in comparison to larger CUVs (which makes sense, considering they are larger). The Lambdas which are 10-12 inches longer, don't have quite the interior volume of minivans- which are larger- come very close, in fact, having more than anything else beside the Suburban. To tell the truth, I think GMC designed a better Pilot (or Pilot XL) in the Acadia. It's more spacious and comfortable than anything in the class. It's one of the most powerful and capable. And styling is muscular yet sleek- something the Pilot could improve on. For once I think honda could learn from GM.
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Replying to: marcovio (Apr 17, 2008 12:29 pm) The 3.7L was a great idea for Mazda. What is even better is that they build the engine completely, not Ford. |
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