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7122 messages, Last post on Nov 09, 2009 at 1:24 PM
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Replying to: dbt (Apr 14, 2008 12:16 pm) |
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Replying to: nxs138 (Apr 14, 2008 2:03 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 15, 2008 8:35 am) |
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After reading the new Pilot walk around by Edmunds, I have to admit, the Pilot seems to have lived up to most of the expectations. I knew it would grow in size, especially after reading about the increase in behind- third row-cargo space to an impressive 20 cubes. But I was actually thinking it would grow more than just 2 inches in length- more like 3-4. I guess Honda didn't want to mess with successful ingredients- and the size always was right. I was also impressed that legroom was up an inch in the 2nd row, and 2 in the third, pretty good for adding 2 inches in length. However, overall cargo space is still an average 87 cubes. I guess something had to give somewhere. I was also hoping for captains chairs. I will even admit the styling has grown on me a little- but that's probably just from looking at all those marketing photos. I wouldn't say it's best in class, but it's a good imporvement on an already good package. And I'd take it over the Highlander.
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Replying to: albook (Apr 15, 2008 5:36 pm) It does seem that Honda concentrated more on the utilitarian part of the CUV, rather then the drive. It does not seem like a bad idea. The GM's went for more interior room, more power. Mazda went for the overall drive and interior passenger space, and now Honda went for overall utility. |
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This is something that Honda is known for, however, they pull up short here with the new Pilot. See how it stacks up against the competition. Pilot. 16/22 250hp/253tq CX-9. 15/21 273hp/270tq GM. 16/22 275hp/251tq Hyundai 15/22 260hp/257tq Considering how much power the Pilot has, IMO, that is what makes the fuel economy not that impressive compared to the competition.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 16, 2008 9:38 am)
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Replying to: albook (Apr 15, 2008 5:36 pm) I think Honda knew they had the Odyssey for the people that wanted space first and foremost, so they intentionally kept the Pilot's dimensions a tad smaller outside. |
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Replying to: dbt (Apr 14, 2008 12:16 pm) Pros over the 08 (IMO)- shifter position, separate rear glass, illuminated steering wheel controls, aux in, improved crash structure, supposedly quieter A wash - interior styling, same basic drivetrain but feels peppy enough in the 08 Cons - VCM adds complexity for little mpg benefit, increased width, styling, supposedly poorer interior plastics (from early reviews, but haven't seen in person) All in all, its probably better, and there is a diesel in the pipeline. But if I were spending $30-35K today(which I didn't; thanks 08 Pilot!), I don't see what this offers over the Lambdas or possibly the Flex. And I think the VC matches up really well now. The CUV market sure has gotten competitive in the past 2-3 years. The 09 just seems like a lost opportunity.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 16, 2008 9:38 am)  ) consumers are going to notice the difference. I know it will be a major advertising point for Mazda and Hyundai. Really, 250 shouldn't be too bad. It's a little more than last year, and I believe the new model in most cases is a little lighter. But where is Honda's updated 3.5 V6 in the Accord? Were they trying to distance the Pilot from the MDX? Because 268 compared to 300 is enough for me. I can see Car and Driver disproving its pickup now.
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