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Replying to: dbt (Apr 14, 2008 12:16 pm) I think you hit the nail on the head when you talk about what is important to the Pilot buyer. You would know, since you own one. This is why I still think it will sell 150-200K until, regardless of how it looks. I think passenger room and cargo room is a big issue, considering the Lambdas and the CX-9 have more passenger room, easier to access the 3rd row, and cargo room, making them more practical then the Pilot. While the Pilot gives the appearance of a more useful and larger CUV because of the box shape, it actually falls short. This is unless the new Pilot is indeed larger. As you said, and which I have stated earlier, the fuel economy is going to be an issue here. I highly doubt that the Pilot will be able to show a significant fuel savings, if any, over GM, Mazda or Hyundai. If the competition is indeed on par in terms of fuel economy, then the ride and drive of the Pilot better sway potential buyers from them if the reliability history of the Pilot is not enough. We all know the new Pilot is not going to win any beauty contests, so, that factor is the decision process is not a positive. |
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Replying to: dbt (Apr 14, 2008 12:16 pm) So boxy is good for practical uses, but with all the other choices in the market today, seems to me they could have made a little more effort. But to your point, it will still sell well enough.
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Replying to: dbt (Apr 14, 2008 12:16 pm) |
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Replying to: nxs138 (Apr 14, 2008 2:03 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 15, 2008 8:35 am) |
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After reading the new Pilot walk around by Edmunds, I have to admit, the Pilot seems to have lived up to most of the expectations. I knew it would grow in size, especially after reading about the increase in behind- third row-cargo space to an impressive 20 cubes. But I was actually thinking it would grow more than just 2 inches in length- more like 3-4. I guess Honda didn't want to mess with successful ingredients- and the size always was right. I was also impressed that legroom was up an inch in the 2nd row, and 2 in the third, pretty good for adding 2 inches in length. However, overall cargo space is still an average 87 cubes. I guess something had to give somewhere. I was also hoping for captains chairs. I will even admit the styling has grown on me a little- but that's probably just from looking at all those marketing photos. I wouldn't say it's best in class, but it's a good imporvement on an already good package. And I'd take it over the Highlander.
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Replying to: albook (Apr 15, 2008 5:36 pm) It does seem that Honda concentrated more on the utilitarian part of the CUV, rather then the drive. It does not seem like a bad idea. The GM's went for more interior room, more power. Mazda went for the overall drive and interior passenger space, and now Honda went for overall utility. |
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This is something that Honda is known for, however, they pull up short here with the new Pilot. See how it stacks up against the competition. Pilot. 16/22 250hp/253tq CX-9. 15/21 273hp/270tq GM. 16/22 275hp/251tq Hyundai 15/22 260hp/257tq Considering how much power the Pilot has, IMO, that is what makes the fuel economy not that impressive compared to the competition.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 16, 2008 9:38 am)
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Replying to: albook (Apr 15, 2008 5:36 pm) I think Honda knew they had the Odyssey for the people that wanted space first and foremost, so they intentionally kept the Pilot's dimensions a tad smaller outside. |
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