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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: 2009 Pilot [robr2] by freealfas
Apr 11, 2008 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: robr2 (Apr 11, 2008 11:37 am)

dare I say the only attractive vehicle in their line up is....
 
the ody...
 
the rest will sell despite the ugly stick beating they have received.
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Re: What could have been... [baggs32] by albook
Apr 11, 2008 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 09, 2008 6:51 pm)

"And to me this blows the Avalon away"
 
Whao! I almost spit out my coffee. The Avalon isn't at all exciting, but at least it's porportioned and not awkward. We've seen only a blurry pic of this, and from what I can see, it's nothing great in styling. As for the coupe in the background, don't get too excited. Ford's still gotta work on the meat and potatoes before they can bring the cake. And from what I can see, that meat needs a lot of cooking.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [ateixeira] by albook
Apr 11, 2008 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 10, 2008 6:26 am)

Uh- there's no other way to put it. This is ugly. It's nowhere near where the market is going. If they wanted to design a CUV that looks like an SUV, why not copy something more simple, like a Tahoe. That would have turned out nice. The wheels are too small. They look like the same 16's.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [thegraduate] by albook
Apr 11, 2008 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 10, 2008 1:00 pm)

The refreshed Accord? You mean the new one that looks like Honda copied BMW from the side? I think that looks great. A huge improvement over the last generation model. That looked completely awkward and plain to me.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [freealfas] by albook
Apr 11, 2008 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: freealfas (Apr 11, 2008 3:30 pm)

"dare I say the only attractive vehicle in their line up is... the ody..."
 
I'll give you the CR-V, but the Accord looks nice. And I think the Civic is the best looking in it's class (besides the Mazda 3), and cool (my kids will never use that word again).
 
Ofcourse, since Honda buyers are hell-bent on styling, sales will drop like rain.
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Re: What could have been... [albook] by baggs32
Apr 11, 2008 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Apr 11, 2008 5:24 pm)

The Avalon isn't at all exciting, but at least it's porportioned and not awkward.
 
Now you made me almost spill my whisky (it's night time now)! I couldn't disagree more, but it is your opinion so I won't argue about it anymore.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [rsholland] by baggs32
Apr 11, 2008 (6:27 pm)
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Replying to: rsholland (Apr 11, 2008 2:52 pm)

Not sure—but by being a Honda I know it will be excellent in most areas of functional concern to me. To me that's FAR more important than an oddly styled front end.
 
True. But, good grief, you still have to look at the thing every day! There are far more CUVs and SUVs these days that both look good and are excellent in functional areas to opt for this thing just because of the "H".
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Re: 2009 Pilot [ateixeira] by mtairyordge
Apr 11, 2008 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 11, 2008 8:56 am)

The new Pilot looks very silly. I was waiting to see what it looked like before buying another vehicle hoping it would mimick the MDX without the premium fuel.
I just can't stomach paying $4/gal for Premium, now $4 for regular doesn't seem that far off.
 
Any way anyone know what the 2010 Pilot will look like LOL.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [albook] by thegraduate
Apr 11, 2008 (10:19 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Apr 11, 2008 5:30 pm)

I don't like the 2008 Accord's INTERIOR, and dislike the 2009 Pilot EXTERIOR. I typically care little about exterior styling, but the only reason to buy a CUV over a minivan is style pretty much, and the Pilot fails here, for me.
 
I love the interior in my 2006 Accord, and the exterior is inoffensive, if not exciting. The LEDs are a neat touch though.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [albook] by aviboy97
Apr 12, 2008 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: albook (Apr 11, 2008 5:35 pm)

Ofcourse, since Honda buyers are hell-bent on styling, sales will drop like rain.
 
I actually disagree. Honda buyers are the least picky about styling, right next to Toyota buyers. People buy Hondas because of their reputation for quality and dependability.
 
What I am curious to see is, what did Honda do to better the Pilot? They have had a few years to better their product. But, did they do it? What gives the Pilot an advantage over the other new CUV's like the Lambdas, CX-9, Veracruz? Consider reliability a given, what does the Pilot offer that the others do not? Is it sportier? I think not. I think it's pretty safe to say that the CX-9 has that covered. Handling? I think the Veracruz and CX-9 have it beat too. I assume this just by looking at it. Small wheels, and bulky stance and Honda has a history of vehicles that don't handle too great. Fuel economy? We will have to wait and see. Power? Also an unknown, however, it is rumored that the Pilot will have the 3.5L w/268 hp and VCM. I don't know if that is a good thing from by the way many are unhappy with the VCM Accord.
 
Bottom line, there are a lot of questions that need to be answered to see if Honda really made an improvement with their new Pilot.

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