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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: 2009 Pilot [robr2] by aviboy97
Apr 10, 2008 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: robr2 (Apr 10, 2008 8:13 am)

Well, there are positives and negatives for large and small tires. First off, those little tires are a weakness for dry pavement driving. Crappy handling and offers a small contact patch to the pavement. They are an advantage in the snow, but, unless it snows more then 50% of the year where you are, then you are at a disadvantage most of the year when driving when compared to a CUV with 18 or 20 inch tires. Plus, those little wheels are an eye sore.
 
Why spend $35,000 on a CUV that is most useful for only part of the year, when you can spend the same amount on a vehicle that offers you better driving for the majority of the year? Your money is better spent on the latter of the two. I'm sure you will now bring up snow driving. There has yet to be anyone stranded in the snow because of the 18 or 20 inch wheels. They just don't track as well in the snow, but, you can still get to where you are going, safely.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [freealfas] by baggs32
Apr 10, 2008 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: freealfas (Apr 09, 2008 7:03 pm)

the vows usually say in sickness and in health, they say nothing about about being forced to buy cars you can't stand... I even read the fine print, we're all in the clear on that one...
 
Well having to look at that thing in the garage every day just might make me sick!
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Re: 2009 Pilot [aviboy97] by robr2
Apr 10, 2008 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 10, 2008 8:36 am)

They are an advantage in the snow, but, unless it snows more then 50% of the year where you are, then you are at a disadvantage most of the year when driving when compared to a CUV with 18 or 20 inch tires. Plus, those little wheels are an eye sore.
 
I will agree that larger tires look better and that they handle better in most cases. But I'm not driving at 9/10ths on the road and really don't need a high performance tire on a CUV. Besides, the replacement cost can get ridiculous.
 
I'm sure you will now bring up snow driving.
 
Yes I will. I run dedicated snows in the winter so the OEM tires aren't an issue for me in the winter - it's the 99% of drivers out there on that high performance rubber that scare me.
 
The other issue is that getting snows to fit the large OEM rims is rather expensive and finding steel wheels in reasonable sizes that fit are impossible. If you go to tirerack in the fall and try finding a snow combo for vehicles with 18"+ tires, one can't even get a steel wheel to fit it - even with -1 or -2 sizing. One must buy another set of alloys.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [ateixeira] by baggs32
Apr 10, 2008 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 10, 2008 6:26 am)

The profile is actually OK, very Jeep-like.
 
I don't see the Jeep but I do see a lot of Pathfinder in the profile and rear. Those two views aren't all that bad. Boring yes, but not bad. That face is just terrible though and has no business being on a squared off SUV. That face belongs on a Dodge Neon or something so we can watch "Say Hello" commercials again.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [robr2] by ateixeira
Apr 10, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: robr2 (Apr 10, 2008 8:13 am)

I'm not asking for giant dubs for rims, what I meant was the large fender flares simply make the wheels appear to be small.
 
The aggressive fenders make a promise the wheels can't keep.
 
They should restyle the fender flares, not supply 20" rims.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [baggs32] by ateixeira
Apr 10, 2008 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 10, 2008 9:14 am)

Jeep profile I was referring to:
 

 
next to the Pilot:
 

 
WOW it looks like they used a Xerox machine for the greenhouse at least. See what I mean now?
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Re: 2009 Pilot [ateixeira] by thegraduate
Apr 10, 2008 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 10, 2008 10:13 am)

Make this Honda number two I won't ever consider purchasing. The refreshed Accord was number one. They're really batting a thousand with me...
 
I still love my '96 and '06 Accords though!
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Re: 2009 Pilot [ateixeira] by baggs32
Apr 11, 2008 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 10, 2008 10:13 am)

WOW it looks like they used a Xerox machine for the greenhouse at least. See what I mean now?
 
When you put it that way I don't see how anyone could not see that. That is a little too similar IMO. I still think overall from the A-pillar all the way back it resembles a Pathfinder. It might just be the rear though.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [baggs32] by ateixeira
Apr 11, 2008 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 11, 2008 8:49 am)

Just curious, does anyone like it? Anybody? Buehler? Buehler?
 
I don't think I've heard a single person call it pretty.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [ateixeira] by vad1819
Apr 11, 2008 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 11, 2008 8:56 am)

I think, it looks all right inside. Outside like any other SUV. I can't say that pathfinder or 4runner, trialblazer, or Explorer or........ are looking better then Honda. I know everyone here was expecting real looking CUV, but Honda went to SUV alike line.

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