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Re: 2009 Pilot [aviboy97] by baggs32
Apr 09, 2008 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 09, 2008 5:24 pm)

I agree. It is awful. I actually thought the prototype was ugly but now I think it might actually have been better looking. I sure hope my wife doesn't pick this monstrosity for our next family hauler.
 



 
Get out the manual for that center stack. You're going to need it!
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Re: 2009 Pilot [baggs32] by freealfas
Apr 09, 2008 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 09, 2008 6:55 pm)

"I sure hope my wife doesn't pick this monstrosity for our next family hauler"
 
Veto that every day of the week and twice on sunday... honda has gone rudderless with this one yet people will flock... it just doesn't make any sense.
 
the vows usually say in sickness and in health, they say nothing about about being forced to buy cars you can't stand... I even read the fine print, we're all in the clear on that one...
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Re: 2009 Pilot [baggs32] by ateixeira
Apr 10, 2008 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 09, 2008 6:55 pm)

Mama-mia. I hope she has a good personality.
 
The profile is actually OK, very Jeep-like. The wheels look WAY too small though.
 
The rear view looks OK. The dual exhaust is an improvement.
 
That center stack has too many buttons. I swear Honda is going backwards in ergonomics, it seems to me each new model is a little less intuitive then the one it replaces. Did they peak a generation ago in that regard, or what?
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Re: 2009 Pilot [ateixeira] by robr2
Apr 10, 2008 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 10, 2008 6:26 am)

I like how it looks - I was worried after seeing the prototype.
 
The wheels look WAY too small though.
 
Personally for those of us in snow country, big wheels aren't the most important thing. Further, lots of folks I'm sure are getting little heart attacks when they go to replace those 20" tires!!
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Re: 2009 Pilot [robr2] by aviboy97
Apr 10, 2008 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: robr2 (Apr 10, 2008 8:13 am)

Well, there are positives and negatives for large and small tires. First off, those little tires are a weakness for dry pavement driving. Crappy handling and offers a small contact patch to the pavement. They are an advantage in the snow, but, unless it snows more then 50% of the year where you are, then you are at a disadvantage most of the year when driving when compared to a CUV with 18 or 20 inch tires. Plus, those little wheels are an eye sore.
 
Why spend $35,000 on a CUV that is most useful for only part of the year, when you can spend the same amount on a vehicle that offers you better driving for the majority of the year? Your money is better spent on the latter of the two. I'm sure you will now bring up snow driving. There has yet to be anyone stranded in the snow because of the 18 or 20 inch wheels. They just don't track as well in the snow, but, you can still get to where you are going, safely.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [freealfas] by baggs32
Apr 10, 2008 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: freealfas (Apr 09, 2008 7:03 pm)

the vows usually say in sickness and in health, they say nothing about about being forced to buy cars you can't stand... I even read the fine print, we're all in the clear on that one...
 
Well having to look at that thing in the garage every day just might make me sick!
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Re: 2009 Pilot [aviboy97] by robr2
Apr 10, 2008 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 10, 2008 8:36 am)

They are an advantage in the snow, but, unless it snows more then 50% of the year where you are, then you are at a disadvantage most of the year when driving when compared to a CUV with 18 or 20 inch tires. Plus, those little wheels are an eye sore.
 
I will agree that larger tires look better and that they handle better in most cases. But I'm not driving at 9/10ths on the road and really don't need a high performance tire on a CUV. Besides, the replacement cost can get ridiculous.
 
I'm sure you will now bring up snow driving.
 
Yes I will. I run dedicated snows in the winter so the OEM tires aren't an issue for me in the winter - it's the 99% of drivers out there on that high performance rubber that scare me.
 
The other issue is that getting snows to fit the large OEM rims is rather expensive and finding steel wheels in reasonable sizes that fit are impossible. If you go to tirerack in the fall and try finding a snow combo for vehicles with 18"+ tires, one can't even get a steel wheel to fit it - even with -1 or -2 sizing. One must buy another set of alloys.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [ateixeira] by baggs32
Apr 10, 2008 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 10, 2008 6:26 am)

The profile is actually OK, very Jeep-like.
 
I don't see the Jeep but I do see a lot of Pathfinder in the profile and rear. Those two views aren't all that bad. Boring yes, but not bad. That face is just terrible though and has no business being on a squared off SUV. That face belongs on a Dodge Neon or something so we can watch "Say Hello" commercials again.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [robr2] by ateixeira
Apr 10, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: robr2 (Apr 10, 2008 8:13 am)

I'm not asking for giant dubs for rims, what I meant was the large fender flares simply make the wheels appear to be small.
 
The aggressive fenders make a promise the wheels can't keep.
 
They should restyle the fender flares, not supply 20" rims.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [baggs32] by ateixeira
Apr 10, 2008 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 10, 2008 9:14 am)

Jeep profile I was referring to:
 

 
next to the Pilot:
 

 
WOW it looks like they used a Xerox machine for the greenhouse at least. See what I mean now?

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