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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Turbo- the new BIG [aviboy97] by baggs32
Apr 09, 2008 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 09, 2008 6:56 am)

In my neck of the woods, I have yet to see any fuel station that offers E85. Plus, I have heard that E85 costs just as much as gas, and is dreadful in terms of fuel economy.
 
Same here, but I am told that there are 1 or 2 in the greater Pittsburgh area which do carry it. Also same as you, I'm told that it costs more than regular gas and it is widely known that you do lose a few M'sPG by putting it in your tank.
 
Why would anyone want that? Yet every day I'm behind a big GM or Dodge truck or SUV which has a big shiny E85 badge on it. Ford has at least backed off of that bandwagon for the most part. I think they still sell SUVs and trucks that are capable of running the fuel, but they don't seem to be advertising it anymore through the media or via a badge on the vehicle.
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What could have been... by baggs32
Apr 09, 2008 (10:02 am)
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So here we have the first spy photo of the 2010 North American Ford Taurus.

 
Yes it looks a lot like the Euro Mondeo only a bit bigger. Since the TX has pretty much been cancelled after MY09 (not officially yet though) imagine what the TX could have been...
 
(2008 Euro Mondeo wagon prototype)


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Re: What could have been... [baggs32] by ateixeira
Apr 09, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 09, 2008 10:02 am)

Don't take this personally but that first pic is ugly. Reminds me way too much of the Chrysler Sebring.
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Re: What could have been... [ateixeira] by zman3
Apr 09, 2008 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 09, 2008 12:02 pm)

It is hard to tell what it really looks like but I actually like it. Anything (other than the original Tribeca) is better than the boring Ford same old, same old.
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Re: What could have been... [baggs32] by albook
Apr 09, 2008 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 09, 2008 10:02 am)

Congrats! You found a way to tie something totally irrelevant to the topic in. No- I'm not being sarcastic. I wanted to put that picture here earlier today but couldn't figure out how to do it without being totally awkward and out of place.
 
Looking at the concept- I'm not so sure. Don't get me wrong, it's leaps and bounds over the current Taurus is terms of looks. Bit it looks as if they are still trying to get that elevated stance, as it looks to tall. I was hoping for something a little more broad shouldered and sporty-not totally 300C/G8, but from what I see, I'd rather have a Camry. Ford better not screw up again. As for what the Wagon, forget what the Taurus could have been. How about what the upcoming Flex should be?
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2009 Pilot by aviboy97
Apr 09, 2008 (5:24 pm)
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Well, official pictures are out of the 09 Pilot, and I must say, it is just ugly. The interior is so "rubber maid" looking, and very complex. Edmunds also seems to think it will be getting Hondas new 3.5L w/ VCM like in the 08 Accord. Since chatter in the Accord threads seem to indicate that the VCM system has many flaws ranging from unimpressive fuel economy, un smooth transition from cylinder to cylinder, shutters, and basically overall unrefinement. Honda is telling these unhappy owners that the system is operating properly. What does this mean to you? Expect there to be a Pilot VCM Problem thread frequently visited.
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Re: What could have been... [ateixeira] by baggs32
Apr 09, 2008 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 09, 2008 12:02 pm)

Don't take this personally but that first pic is ugly.
 
Don't worry juice, I won't. I know you are the one who likes Subarus.
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Re: What could have been... [albook] by baggs32
Apr 09, 2008 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Apr 09, 2008 2:39 pm)

I was hoping for something a little more broad shouldered and sporty-not totally 300C/G8,
 
Remember that this is the Taurus which will still primarily compete with the Avalon and this to me blows the Avalon away. The Fusion will still be your Camry/Accord competitor.
 
I think the big question is what that coupe in the background is? Some say maybe an MKS coupe to compete with the new Caddy CTS coupe. Others say maybe it's the MKR. And some are even saying it could be the next T-Bird which is rumored for 2012. Although the latter is supposedly going to be a 4-door.
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Re: 2009 Pilot [aviboy97] by baggs32
Apr 09, 2008 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 09, 2008 5:24 pm)

I agree. It is awful. I actually thought the prototype was ugly but now I think it might actually have been better looking. I sure hope my wife doesn't pick this monstrosity for our next family hauler.
 



 
Get out the manual for that center stack. You're going to need it!
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Re: 2009 Pilot [baggs32] by freealfas
Apr 09, 2008 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 09, 2008 6:55 pm)

"I sure hope my wife doesn't pick this monstrosity for our next family hauler"
 
Veto that every day of the week and twice on sunday... honda has gone rudderless with this one yet people will flock... it just doesn't make any sense.
 
the vows usually say in sickness and in health, they say nothing about about being forced to buy cars you can't stand... I even read the fine print, we're all in the clear on that one...

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