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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Is the Taurus X dying? [baggs32] by vad1819
Feb 23, 2008 (9:32 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Feb 23, 2008 6:21 pm)

I have build one on ford website with same options as my Acadia, so at end Flex 2 grand chipper than Acadia.
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Re: Ford Flex Styling [baggs32] by tourguide
Feb 23, 2008 (9:45 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Feb 23, 2008 1:47 pm)

Um, it was first introduced last Spring in a concept
 
It has been talked about for much longer than that by people who have been working on it at blueovalnews. You are talking about the moment of announcement to the public. My point here is that the tech is not new - SO - why the long dev cycle Ford? Much too long really.
 
So they need more emotional designs, yet now that they have one you don't like it?
 
This isn't an emotional design - it is a shoebox with wheels. Ever see Chevy Chase in National Lampoons Vacation? Every time I see the Flex (the outside), I think about that movie for some reason.
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Re: GPS Navigation [tourguide] by qs933
Feb 24, 2008 (12:08 am)
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Replying to: tourguide (Feb 23, 2008 6:12 pm)

I much prefer the sonar beeping that increases in frequency
 
I'd want to have both. I have a third-party sonar system installed on my 4Runner. However, a backup camera is still high on my want-to-have feature list. The main thing to remember is that both are aids for reversing. They are not substitutes for being careful when reversing.
 
It's a little more complicated for me, as navigation is not an option in my area (Hawaii). This is actually an advantage that both the Highlander and the Murano have over some of the others, at least for me.
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Re: GPS Navigation [qs933] by ronn
Feb 24, 2008 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: qs933 (Feb 24, 2008 12:08 am)

I would like to add to your post. I have a 08 Highlander Limited, and I love it ! I will say I would like your idea of having a beep system (sonar) to go along with the back-up camera.
While the camera is helpful, you can only see directly behind, not much with the sides. I thought I would be able to see more, but I don't. I still find myself looking back more than I thought I would. I guess I thought the camera would give a wider span, and its attention to details was stronger. I could actually do without it at this point. I don't seem to trust it enough! Maybe I had the wrong concept of what it is suppose to do.
If Toyota could add the sonar along with this, it would maybe help me feel more comfortable.
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Re: GPS Navigation [ronn] by tourguide
Feb 24, 2008 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: ronn (Feb 24, 2008 5:45 am)

If Toyota could add the sonar along with this, it would maybe help me feel more comfortable
 
This was one thing that helped me in rule out the Highlander actually. Having had this feature in the past (and looking for it now) and knowing it wasn't even offered on the Highlander. I thought the sonar system was fantastic. Great tech there.
 
Anyone here have experience with both GM and Ford NAV? How do they compare?
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Re: GPS Navigation [tourguide] by ronn
Feb 24, 2008 (3:33 am)
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Replying to: tourguide (Feb 24, 2008 6:37 am)

Hey Tourguide,
I hate that you ruled out the Highlander because of not having the sonar for back-up. It is a great SUV...smooth, quiet. I guess we all get spoiled with modern tech..5 or more years ago, we would still be depending solely on our road maps and rear view mirrors without additional help ! LOL
Technical stuff has come along way..it is truely amazing whats out there. It does come with a high price tag though!
I love the Highlander. Best of luck in what you decide to get.
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Re: Flex vx TX [bobw3] by tim156
Feb 24, 2008 (4:35 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 23, 2008 1:25 pm)

Exactly, the only difference is the exterior styling, some cosmetic add on's and technological upgrades. If the styling of the Freestyle/TX was so bland to some, why not make the minor styling changes that makes it more attractive and save the millions it takes to develop a new design. (Of course they'd have to market it). I keep thinking of the millions of dollars Ford wasted designing, building and shipping the Freestyle/TX only to drop them both after three years. My guess is they can't afford too many more financial blunders like that before they have to file for bankruptcy. Ford is taking a big chance here with the Flex, and it's partner the Edge. If the Flex fails, my prediction is Ford becomes America's truck builder.
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Re: Ford Flex Styling [tourguide] by vad1819
Feb 24, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: tourguide (Feb 23, 2008 9:45 pm)

Good point. May be something like this:
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Re: Ford Flex Styling [freealfas] by albook
Feb 24, 2008 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: freealfas (Feb 23, 2008 11:17 am)

name them then...FS is one, 500 & variants to a lesser extent as it sold though not to hopes and dreams amounts
 
That's a start. Let's not forget the Navigator, the Aviator, the Mark LT and the minivans. And I bet the Lincoln MKS will flop, too. Ford was nuts when they thought they could save the FS/ 500 by changing the name and adding the ugly fronts. NO. Absolutely not.
 
How do YOU KNOW? it may outsell the lambda's when it gets here, it may not but that begs the question, how do YOU KNOW?
 
Doubt it will outsell the lambdas. I know because it appeals to less people.
 
the VC, correct as it is quite plain and the CX is absolutely polarizing, you've heard it here.
 
Oppinion.
 
any other "facts" you'd like to offer to the class
 
Let's not go down that road.

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