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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [chuckhoy] by albook
Feb 22, 2008 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: chuckhoy (Feb 22, 2008 10:06 am)

We fit 8 peopel in a Civic when I was in college. It was neither comfortable or safe, but we did it.
 
Key word: college.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [cason1] by albook
Feb 22, 2008 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: cason1 (Feb 22, 2008 1:38 pm)

I think I might buy an RDX to go along with it.
 
Really? I'm not a big fan of the RDX. I'd rather have the competition- especially with the GLK and the Volvo XC60 coming out. And I'm a big fan of the X3.
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Re: Is the Taurus X dying? [albook] by baggs32
Feb 22, 2008 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 22, 2008 3:08 pm)

As for being high, I don't think by too much. Really it's a matter of is anyone willing to pay this much for this vehicle- or a Ford period. Price is what killed the Chrysler Pacifica. The prices are 28g (base) 32g (SEL) and 34g (Limited). I think they all should be decreased by $1000.
 
Actually after I looked at the prices again and compared them to those of one of the top dogs, the Acadia, it is actually priced really well IMO. It comes with more standard than the GMC yet costs thousands less. It is a bit smaller though. But not that much.
 
I think the engine is a mistak. They shouldn't be using the D35 for something this big considering what the competition is using these days IMO.
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Re: Is the Taurus X dying? [baggs32] by albook
Feb 22, 2008 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Feb 22, 2008 6:12 pm)

I think the engine is a mistak. They shouldn't be using the D35 for something this big considering what the competition is using these days IMO.
 
That's Ford's newest V6. It makes 265hp and is used in the similarly sized TX. What else would they use?
 
Actually after I looked at the prices again and compared them to those of one of the top dogs, the Acadia, it is actually priced really well IMO. It comes with more standard than the GMC yet costs thousands less. It is a bit smaller though. But not that much.
 
Length wise, the Acadia is shorter. So really they are the same size, except for height. As for the price- yes I did notice it was priced comparably to the Acadia. That's the problem. I'm not bashing on Flex, but I don't think as many people would be willing to spend that amount on it as the GMC. It's just so different looking that it caters to only certain tastes. That said, it is smart that Ford is giving buyers a few more standard features than GM- they will need to in order to keep up with their competitors.
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Re: Is the Taurus X dying? [albook] by baggs32
Feb 22, 2008 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 22, 2008 6:51 pm)

That's Ford's newest V6. It makes 265hp and is used in the similarly sized TX. What else would they use?

 
The D37 is newer and has more torque and HP, or they could use an EcoBoost. I wouldn't be surprised to see either of them in the 2010 flex however.
 
As for the price- yes I did notice it was priced comparably to the Acadia. That's the problem.
 
That's the opposite of what I was saying. Feature-wise the Flex SEL is comparable to the Acadia SLT 4SB. Price-wise the Flex SEL is $5000 cheaper (FWD models). I think you'd have to add the comfort group to the Flex to make it truly comparable to the top Acadia but even then the difference is $4000 or thereabouts. Having only sat in 2 or 3 Acadias I don't see how you or anyone could feel a GMC product is worth that kind of premium but that doesn't mean you're not allowed to.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [cason1] by jimmy2x
Feb 22, 2008 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: cason1 (Feb 22, 2008 5:53 am)

Disclaimer - These, of course, are my opinions. Your opinions may (and probably will) vary if you are not a "car" guy like me. "Truck" guys will most likely hate the MDX.
 
Funny thing is - I am comparing with and still seriously considering the 4Runner. Have also driven that (V6) and find that it handles surprisingly well especially with the XREAS suspension. The 4Runner, of course, is a real SUV (body-on-frame) and has true off-road capability. It does not compare well so far as bells and whistles go with the MDX, but it does have a reputation for rock-solid reliability and we are planning to travel to the Rocky Mountain area and upward to Alaska. And I have to admit that I do find the "trucky" look appealing. Nice to have so many choices.
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Ford Flex Styling by tourguide
Feb 22, 2008 (8:09 pm)
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Replying to: jimmy2x (Feb 22, 2008 7:38 pm)

Since the Flex has come up here, I'll throw my two cents in on this model. It is true that I'm leaning towards the Enclave, which got me looking in the first place with the styling, but I just cannot believe how wrong Ford has gone with the styling of the Flex.
 
Seriously, if this is the best we can expect from Ford then I expect they won't last much longer before declaring bankruptcy. How anybody green lighted that "family truckster" body simply boggles my mind.
 
What got me interested in it was the feature set, but now that I see the styling - forget it. Ford calls it 'distinctive' - well I guess that would be one word to use, not the one I'd choose to be sure. If you look at the old Freestyle body, and the former 500 design you can see the design influence - ugh. Why would I want a vehicle that says - OLD TIMER ON BOARD?
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Re: Ford Flex Styling [tourguide] by freealfas
Feb 22, 2008 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: tourguide (Feb 22, 2008 8:09 pm)

that's one limited view...and buick screams look at my youthful, hmmmm, attitude... oh yeah tiger "drives" one that's it, it's definitely youthful if Tiger drives one... please. yes buicks demographic has lowered...a bit, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts any day of the week a flex is going to appeal to a younger crowd than any enclave will unless it's dubbed up and chrome meshed grilled all unipue auto style and then the bet is off as we all know how people like shiney.
 
squint and look at a flex and see xxxl mini cooper, I'd argue that might not have the OLD TIMER connotations your blinders lead you to see, or not. I'd also argue squint again and see scaled up japanese "cube" vehicles in proportion, are they marketed to OLD TIMER's, I didn't think so.
 
my $.02, your comments are more than a little wide of the mark.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [jimmy2x] by cason1
Feb 23, 2008 (2:24 am)
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Replying to: jimmy2x (Feb 22, 2008 7:38 pm)

I like the 4-runner and the current model seems to have benefited from Lexus developing a model off the platform. Having said that, I have trouble getting comfortable behind the wheel of the 4-runner...I feel to close to the floor for a vehicle like that. That's just a personal thing though and I imagine it is far from the norm.
 
I have a relative that bought a 2008 4-runner right before I got my MDX. They have extremely close stickers. It will be fun to compare them sitting next to one another when I see him this summer.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [albook] by cason1
Feb 23, 2008 (2:27 am)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 22, 2008 10:22 am)

I like the RDX...it's a bit quirky and so am I. I would prefer a 6 over the T4. I won't pay what a nicely equipped x3 will cost and I'm not a Volvo fan.

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