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Replying to: cason1 (Feb 22, 2008 5:53 am) Even in terms of two rows, the best competitors are the RX and M-class. The RX doesn't handle quite as well, and the M-class is a Mercedes- therefore you will have to pay Mercedes premium. And if I had to pick my favorite of those, it would be the M-class, but that doesn't seat seven. Get it on the highway to legal and above-legal speeds. Well that's being responsible. |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 22, 2008 4:09 am) And the worst is Lexus. Let's not even pretend that third row seat was intended for more than a shelf for groceries. It's flat on the floor. |
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Replying to: chuckhoy (Feb 22, 2008 10:06 am) Key word: college. |
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Replying to: cason1 (Feb 22, 2008 1:38 pm) Really? I'm not a big fan of the RDX. I'd rather have the competition- especially with the GLK and the Volvo XC60 coming out. And I'm a big fan of the X3.
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Replying to: albook (Feb 22, 2008 3:08 pm) Actually after I looked at the prices again and compared them to those of one of the top dogs, the Acadia, it is actually priced really well IMO. It comes with more standard than the GMC yet costs thousands less. It is a bit smaller though. But not that much. I think the engine is a mistak. They shouldn't be using the D35 for something this big considering what the competition is using these days IMO.
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Replying to: baggs32 (Feb 22, 2008 6:12 pm) That's Ford's newest V6. It makes 265hp and is used in the similarly sized TX. What else would they use? Actually after I looked at the prices again and compared them to those of one of the top dogs, the Acadia, it is actually priced really well IMO. It comes with more standard than the GMC yet costs thousands less. It is a bit smaller though. But not that much. Length wise, the Acadia is shorter. So really they are the same size, except for height. As for the price- yes I did notice it was priced comparably to the Acadia. That's the problem. I'm not bashing on Flex, but I don't think as many people would be willing to spend that amount on it as the GMC. It's just so different looking that it caters to only certain tastes. That said, it is smart that Ford is giving buyers a few more standard features than GM- they will need to in order to keep up with their competitors.
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Replying to: albook (Feb 22, 2008 6:51 pm) The D37 is newer and has more torque and HP, or they could use an EcoBoost. I wouldn't be surprised to see either of them in the 2010 flex however. As for the price- yes I did notice it was priced comparably to the Acadia. That's the problem. That's the opposite of what I was saying. Feature-wise the Flex SEL is comparable to the Acadia SLT 4SB. Price-wise the Flex SEL is $5000 cheaper (FWD models). I think you'd have to add the comfort group to the Flex to make it truly comparable to the top Acadia but even then the difference is $4000 or thereabouts. Having only sat in 2 or 3 Acadias I don't see how you or anyone could feel a GMC product is worth that kind of premium but that doesn't mean you're not allowed to.
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Replying to: cason1 (Feb 22, 2008 5:53 am) Funny thing is - I am comparing with and still seriously considering the 4Runner. Have also driven that (V6) and find that it handles surprisingly well especially with the XREAS suspension. The 4Runner, of course, is a real SUV (body-on-frame) and has true off-road capability. It does not compare well so far as bells and whistles go with the MDX, but it does have a reputation for rock-solid reliability and we are planning to travel to the Rocky Mountain area and upward to Alaska. And I have to admit that I do find the "trucky" look appealing. Nice to have so many choices.
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Replying to: jimmy2x (Feb 22, 2008 7:38 pm) Seriously, if this is the best we can expect from Ford then I expect they won't last much longer before declaring bankruptcy. How anybody green lighted that "family truckster" body simply boggles my mind. What got me interested in it was the feature set, but now that I see the styling - forget it. Ford calls it 'distinctive' - well I guess that would be one word to use, not the one I'd choose to be sure. If you look at the old Freestyle body, and the former 500 design you can see the design influence - ugh. Why would I want a vehicle that says - OLD TIMER ON BOARD?
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Replying to: tourguide (Feb 22, 2008 8:09 pm) squint and look at a flex and see xxxl mini cooper, I'd argue that might not have the OLD TIMER connotations your blinders lead you to see, or not. I'd also argue squint again and see scaled up japanese "cube" vehicles in proportion, are they marketed to OLD TIMER's, I didn't think so. my $.02, your comments are more than a little wide of the mark.
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