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Re: Is the Taurus X dying? [albook] by baggs32
Feb 22, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 22, 2008 8:45 am)

SO if you want a similar vehicle that is up to date, I'd suggest the Ford Flex (it's similar sized and comes to the market soon).
 
Similar sized but not similar price.
 
2009 Ford Flex order guide
 
2009 Ford Flex price guide
 
It seems to have a lot standard which follows Ford's recent announcement that they will be packaging trim levels similar to the Asian mfrs. But I think it's still kind of pricey. Competitively priced, yes. But I expected it to be closer to the TX in price myself.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [bobw3] by ateixeira
Feb 22, 2008 (5:12 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 22, 2008 5:09 am)

And even then the interior photos are designed to trick you
 
Bingo.
 
Many models used are size 0.
 
Did you know that Honda sold a 10-passenger (yes TEN) CR-V in the Philippines. Not stretched, by the way.
 
No, seriously.
 
It was actually done to avoid taxes, I believe, but they pulled it off!
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [ateixeira] by freealfas
Feb 22, 2008 (5:32 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 22, 2008 5:12 am)

passengers 7/8 held onto the spare tire on the back door and passengers 9/10 the roof rack, or the other way around???
 
oh, I just figured it out, stacked like cordwood in the back with the seats folded down...that''s it.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [freealfas] by chuckhoy
Feb 22, 2008 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: freealfas (Feb 22, 2008 5:32 am)

We fit 8 peopel in a Civic when I was in college. It was neither comfortable or safe, but we did it.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [chuckhoy] by freealfas
Feb 22, 2008 (6:11 am)
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Replying to: chuckhoy (Feb 22, 2008 11:06 am)

5 nurses and me as DD in one of their chevettes count??? in college...
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [hoser0eh] by nxs138
Feb 22, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Feb 21, 2008 9:15 pm)

5 years ago a vehicle priced at $32000 US might have cost $40000 Canadian. However, since the Canadian dollar was only worth 62 cents US back then, the $40000 Canadian price was equal to $24800 US. That was a great deal for Canadians.
 
Actually, that was still a crap deal for Canadians: taking exchange rates only confuses the point. Suppose that we both went to the dealer with a $50k dollar bill (say yours was $50k canadian, mine was $50k american) and bought the same car: at the end of the day you'd have $10k left over, while I would have $18k. I am still relatively $8k richer than you are. With that extra $8k in my hands I can go buy myself 8000 packs of gum, while no gum for you!
 
See the point I'm trying to make?
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [freealfas] by ateixeira
Feb 22, 2008 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: freealfas (Feb 22, 2008 6:11 am)

Now *that* actually sounds like fun.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [jimmy2x] by cason1
Feb 22, 2008 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: jimmy2x (Feb 21, 2008 7:13 am)

My wife and I looked at the Lambdas and the CX-9 (pretty hard at the CX-9) and a long list of others, but ended up buying the MDX. Yes the MDX is slightly smaller, but it is plenty large enough the vast majority of the time for my family of four. When it's not, I have a trailer hitch carrier and a small trailer that can make up the difference. And unlike a lot of these vehicles, the MDX handles really well. The difference doesn't really show up in comparing skidpad numbers and acceleration times, but rather in the overall feeling of control, stability and...believe it or not...the fun you feel while driving it. The only three row vehicle at or below the MDX price point that can even come close to the MDX from behind the wheel (and I drove pretty much all of them extensively over the year prior to purchase) was the CX-9. I certainly have some nits to pick with the MDX (plood, cell phone interface, front styling, etc), but I've never owned a vehicle where I didn't.
 
Unless a person's budget rules it out, it should at least get a looonnnng test drive. And not just around the corner. Get it on the highway to legal and above-legal speeds. Get it on a curvy road and spend enough time with the SH-AWD to understand how to make it work. Check out it's maneuverability in tight parking lots. Ok, maybe not that...it is rather wide. After doing all that, it was one of the easier buying decisions I ever made.
 
Disclaimer - These, of course, are my opinions. Your opinions may (and probably will) vary if you are not a "car" guy like me. "Truck" guys will most likely hate the MDX.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [cason1] by ateixeira
Feb 22, 2008 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: cason1 (Feb 22, 2008 6:53 am)

Actually, it does show up in the skidpad numbers. The MDX aced the skidpad in C&D tests, at least. 0.87 Gs IIRC. Other crossovers are usually around 0.75g or so.
 
Impressive. And not just impressive "for a crossover", impressive with no disclaimers at all.
 
What did you pay for yours? With what options?
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [cjsb] by volkov
Feb 22, 2008 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: cjsb (Feb 22, 2008 9:44 am)

Yes, I think it's very important to note that this is not the fault of your local dealer. A dealer I know complained 2 years ago when the C$ was much weaker that he could walk onto a lot in Wash state and buy a vehicle for less than he had to pay the Canadian distributor. The Canadian dollar has been appreciating for 7 years now. Until there was a consumer complaint backlash in the past 5 months, they never made any adjustments to pricing.

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