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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [cjsb] by jimmy2x
Feb 21, 2008 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: cjsb (Feb 21, 2008 11:53 am)

I won't pretend to understand Canadian car pricing . In the States the difference is not so dramatic. Probably around 30K for a base Acadia vs around 40K for the MDX/Tech.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [albook] by ateixeira
Feb 21, 2008 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 20, 2008 3:17 pm)

I know MT has a new Editor and has improved lately, though I haven't read them in a while.
 
I don't agree with a lot of their past COTY picks, though.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [ateixeira] by albook
Feb 21, 2008 (2:54 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 21, 2008 8:50 am)

I don't agree with a lot of their past COTY picks, though.
 
I know- the Camry? Yawn. The Mercedes Benz GL? Why. The 2008 picks were okay for me though.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [jimmy2x] by cjsb
Feb 21, 2008 (2:55 pm)
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Replying to: jimmy2x (Feb 21, 2008 1:41 pm)

Few of us (Canadians) do. Hence why manufacturers like GM, Hyundai, Lexus, Chrysler, etc. have slashed pricing to keep shoppers this side of the border. Doesn't look like Acura is one of them - yet. Watch for it to happen though.
 
MDX looks to be $42K in the States and $53K here.
 
For many years I think we had it better than the U.S. in terms of car pricing and the opposite was the case.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [bobw3] by hoser0eh
Feb 21, 2008 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 21, 2008 9:44 am)

I've never been to an auto show. I thought you could get inside the vehicles and check them out. Seems like a waste of time just looking at the exterior of a bunch of cars.
 
Actually, you can get into most of the vehicles at an auto show. They restrict some access to certain vehicles (ie. a half million dollar car that they don't want damaged). And some concepts don't even have a finished interior to look at anyway.
 
I probably sat in about a dozen different vehicles, although you might be sharing the experience with many people you don't know.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [hoser0eh] by albook
Feb 21, 2008 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Feb 21, 2008 10:57 am)

I've never been to an auto show. I thought you could get inside the vehicles and check them out. Seems like a waste of time just looking at the exterior of a bunch of cars.
 
He's never been to an autoshow? He doesn't know wha the's missing! That's the best place to go if you want to look at all your possible next vehicle choices in one place.
 
I probably sat in about a dozen different vehicles, although you might be sharing the experience with many people you don't know.
 
You don't enjoy people constantly saying "you like it?" or "have enough room back there?" or jumping in front of you in line to get in a Porche? On second thought...
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [jimmy2x] by hoser0eh
Feb 21, 2008 (8:15 pm)
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Replying to: jimmy2x (Feb 21, 2008 11:41 am)

Also agree...the MDX is fantastic. But the price!! Based on current offers in Canada I believe an MDX is going to run buyers about 60% more than a base Lambda
  
I am sure that I will never understand how Canadian prices work, but I WAS comparing between the MDX and a "high-end" Lambda, in other words vehicles that are similarly equipped.

 
Auto prices in Canada have been impacted in a big way by the rising currency. About 5 years ago, a Canadian dollar was worth about 62 cents US (it's all-time low). Back then, vehicle prices in Canada were about 10%-20% less than in the US after accounting for the currency exchange.
 
However, over the last five years the Canadian dollar has gone from 62 cents US to around $1 even (that's more than a 60% increase; 38/62). As a result, the relative retail prices have also changed. We have gone from about 20% cheaper to about 20% more expensive.
 
I'll give an example to help illustrate:
 
5 years ago a vehicle priced at $32000 US might have cost $40000 Canadian. However, since the Canadian dollar was only worth 62 cents US back then, the $40000 Canadian price was equal to $24800 US. That was a great deal for Canadians.
 
Today, with the two dollars being pretty much equal, the same vehicle priced at $40000 Canadian is now equal to $40000 US. But if the vehicle price in the US is still at $32000, then it's much cheaper for Americans to buy.
 
The market prices will slowly change to equalize the prices, but they rarely change as quickly as the currency does. It takes time for the adjustments to work through the system.
 
Our dollar has been roughly equal to the US dollar for about a year now, and the car companies are just starting to make price adjustments here (ie Lexus RX350 msrp has just gone from 53000 to 44500).
 
Eventually Canadian and American prices should be somewhat similar, though they will rarely be exactly the same.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [hoser0eh] by volkov
Feb 21, 2008 (9:20 pm)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Feb 21, 2008 8:15 pm)

But you are missing some of the points that bother me most. Although many brands claim to have adjusted prices, many simply offered cash discounts but only for cash purchases. Financed or leased vehicles did not see any price changes. c.f. GM for example. The reason they did this was that only Canadians with cash in hand could buy in the US. This ploy removed any advantage for those individuals, but the majority of car buyers finance in one way or another, and they see no benefit. In most cases, the new pricing is really a pittance offering a couple of thousand dollars for a $10k difference.
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Is the Taurus X dying? by raezmom3
Feb 22, 2008 (4:49 am)
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I read that Ford will no longer produce the Taurus x after 2010. I am about to buy this car and I was so excited about it because I did so much research on it and come to find out they are not happy with it. Why are they getting rid of the Taurus X it just came out?
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Re: Is the Taurus X dying? [raezmom3] by baggs32
Feb 22, 2008 (12:52 am)
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Replying to: raezmom3 (Feb 22, 2008 4:49 am)

Why are they getting rid of the Taurus X it just came out?
 
Luke warm customer response.
 
Slow sales.
 
They will have the Flex and the new unibody, car based Explorer on the lots. All three would be similar in size (within a few inches of each other probably) and would never survive together, therefore one has to go.
 
I like it too raezmom and wouldn't hesitate to buy one now if my wife liked it too. But we're in the minority and Ford sees it fit to move on.

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