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Lambda vs. MDX by jimmy2x
Feb 21, 2008 (10:04 am)
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Not trying to sway or argue with anyone here, just thought I'd post my opinion.
 
Have driven both the Acadia and the Enclave recently and liked them both. Very comfortable, smooth ride, lots of bells and whistles.
 
Wife and I took a test drive in the MDX yesterday and I was really surprised at the difference in handling and power. The SHAWD is a lot more than just hype. Vehicle remains flat in quick turns and accellerates quickly. Steering wheel is well weighted and gives great road feel. As you can tell I really liked it.
 
By comparison the Acadia/Enclave steering seems over-boosted, there is more wallow in turns, and generally are not nearly as involving to drive. They are NOT bad cars, just different.
 
 I fully recognize that many here could care less about handling, etc. Just think that given the similarities in price point, at least for the high end Lambda platforms, prospective buyers owe it to themseleves to at least drive the MDX.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [jimmy2x] by zman3
Feb 21, 2008 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: jimmy2x (Feb 21, 2008 10:04 am)

I agree with what you say about them being different. We wanted the extra space of the Enclave more than we wanted the performance of the MDX, so that is what we bought. If space is not an concern I can easily see why someone would buy the MDX.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [zman3] by jimmy2x
Feb 21, 2008 (6:13 am)
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Replying to: zman3 (Feb 21, 2008 10:30 am)

Agree 100% about the space issue. Since it will normally be just my wife and I with only occassional use for up to four people, the 3rd row to us is a non-issue. If we buy the MDX, am sure that we will flop down the 3rd row the day we get it, and never raise it again. Actually the 10" loss of length will make it easier to get in the garage .
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [jimmy2x] by albook
Feb 21, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: jimmy2x (Feb 21, 2008 10:04 am)

I love the MDX. I say it's the best thing Acura's got going among their fading lineup. It's not quite up to the real luxury standards in my book- driving this back to back with a Mercedes M class makes me feel like I'm drving a nice Honda- but Acura has "advanced" in the last few years. And while the Banz may be more luxury, the MDX is definitely more fun to drive. If you want a sport luxury crossover for the family, there is simply no other way to go. The X5 is simply too heavy and the third row is a shelf!
 
Now if only Acura could correct the rest of it's line up. They just redid the TSX (which looks okay) but I'd rather have an Accord than that ugly RL.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [zman3] by cjsb
Feb 21, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: zman3 (Feb 21, 2008 10:30 am)

Also agree...the MDX is fantastic. But the price!! Based on current offers in Canada I believe an MDX is going to run buyers about 60% more than a base Lambda.
 
GM has dropped the price by $4K on Acadias/Outlooks, so if you're a Canadian looking at these twins, good timing. I think you can pick up base models for about $31K before delivery and tax. Only about $1500 more than across the border...but that difference is mitigated by various factors that pretty much makes it a scratch.
 
Though even after this $4K price break by GM I still would opt for the VC (unless I needed the extra foot in length for three or more grown kids - then that extra space may be invaluable - and I know some Posters here can be included in that group). The base VC in Canada would be about $3K more than a base Lambda out the door and for the $3K you get AWD, leather, sunroof, power driver seat, steering wheel audio, etc. and the longer warranty.
 
I also went to the Canadian Auto Show this weekend. I think it might have been good...I think anyway...
 
Made the mistake of going without my wife and spent most of the time chasing my five year old son. Can't say I saw much of the cars. So if you saw some poor dude carrying granola bars and juice boxes running around after a 46 inch tall tasmanian devil - that'd be me.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [albook] by jimmy2x
Feb 21, 2008 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 21, 2008 11:23 am)

I love the MDX. I say it's the best thing Acura's got going among their fading lineup. It's not quite up to the real luxury standards in my book...
 
I have no idea what ANY Mercedes is like to drive. Generally far more expensive than we could afford. The MDX is not a luxury vehicle in the Mercedes/Lexus sense, but it is a cut above the norm and would certainly be the nicest (and most expensive) vehicle that we ever bought.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [cjsb] by jimmy2x
Feb 21, 2008 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: cjsb (Feb 21, 2008 11:28 am)

Also agree...the MDX is fantastic. But the price!! Based on current offers in Canada I believe an MDX is going to run buyers about 60% more than a base Lambda
 
I am sure that I will never understand how Canadian prices work, but I WAS comparing between the MDX and a "high-end" Lambda, in other words vehicles that are similarly equipped.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [jimmy2x] by cjsb
Feb 21, 2008 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: jimmy2x (Feb 21, 2008 11:41 am)

I know.
 
I didn't mean to imply otherwise.
 
I was just wow'd by the fact that one can walk away with the GM's (admittedly base models, yes) for 60% of the price of the MDX. Unless my calculations from the websites were wrong.
 
Let's say I can afford the MDX...personally, I take the base GM over it in a nanosecond and pocket the change. The MDX is not 60% more vehicle in my opinion.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [cjsb] by jimmy2x
Feb 21, 2008 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: cjsb (Feb 21, 2008 11:53 am)

I won't pretend to understand Canadian car pricing . In the States the difference is not so dramatic. Probably around 30K for a base Acadia vs around 40K for the MDX/Tech.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [albook] by ateixeira
Feb 21, 2008 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 20, 2008 3:17 pm)

I know MT has a new Editor and has improved lately, though I haven't read them in a while.
 
I don't agree with a lot of their past COTY picks, though.

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