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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [ateixeira] by albook
Feb 20, 2008 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 20, 2008 8:33 am)

Good point about their being better sources, and I'd go as far as even agreeing with the ones you suggest (C&D, Edmunds, and I'll add Autoweek).
 
 I take it you're not an MT fan. People talk about them a lot. I really don't complain; I read MT because they always have the latest info (well, behind Edmunds, but before any other magazine).
 
I'm not a huge CR fan either. If I read CR, it's for amusement in a doctor's office- just to hear their oppinion on whatever vehicle they're testing. I would never go off them to buy a car, but that's just because I already know so much about cars, and like to do a lot of test driving. For someone who isn't as in to the automotive world, CR could be a decent source to use.
 
And I think everybody does turning circle.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [albook] by baggs32
Feb 20, 2008 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 20, 2008 3:07 pm)

I didn't go to the Toronto show, but I went to the Chicago show, and you couldn't open them there, so I doubt it. Production can't be too far away, though (I've heard June).
 
That's what I'm assuming too. Our show here isn't until late April this year (it's a decent sized show but not major by any stretch of the imagination) so I'm crossing my fingers that they put one on the floor for all to see since JOB1 is scheduled for April 7th.
 
I'm also hoping to see the new Volvo XC60 in a color other than the one Volvo is showing in it's newly released production pictures. I like it but it looks a little odd shaped in that color to me.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [baggs32] by albook
Feb 20, 2008 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Feb 20, 2008 5:46 pm)

That's what I'm assuming too. Our show here isn't until late April this year (it's a decent sized show but not major by any stretch of the imagination) so I'm crossing my fingers that they put one on the floor for all to see since JOB1 is scheduled for April 7th.
 
You never know; the Hyundai Genesis was sitting right on the floor in Chicago. I was suprised. Although, I do think if you want an experience like that, you might have to go to a major autoshow, not just your local city's. I really think if you want to get a general idea, sit in a TX. I can't imagine what ford could have done to really differentiate the two, although if they want anything resembling success, it better be something amazing.
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why acadia isn't listed on IIHS by allison5
Feb 20, 2008 (9:04 pm)
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I am really curious on why the Acadia is not listed on the safety rating on IIHS web site. Knowing that the vehicle has been out since 2007, I am not understanding why they wouldn't have it listed. Although i noticed the GMC Yukons were not either. I saw Acadias good ratings on Safercar.gov so that is reassuring but am a little concerned about why not on the other site.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [baggs32] by hoser0eh
Feb 20, 2008 (9:24 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Feb 20, 2008 2:14 pm)

What did you think of the Flex?
  
Yeah, and could you actually open the doors and get in one hoser0eh?

 
I quite liked the Flex. It looked interesting and different. My wife did not like it though. Couldn't look inside or open doors.
Same with the Volvo. It looked fabulous. However, it might not be as practical inside as the Flex, due to it's curvy shape.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [hoser0eh] by bobw3
Feb 21, 2008 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Feb 20, 2008 9:24 pm)

I've never been to an auto show. I thought you could get inside the vehicles and check them out. Seems like a waste of time just looking at the exterior of a bunch of cars.
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Lambda vs. MDX by jimmy2x
Feb 21, 2008 (10:04 am)
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Not trying to sway or argue with anyone here, just thought I'd post my opinion.
 
Have driven both the Acadia and the Enclave recently and liked them both. Very comfortable, smooth ride, lots of bells and whistles.
 
Wife and I took a test drive in the MDX yesterday and I was really surprised at the difference in handling and power. The SHAWD is a lot more than just hype. Vehicle remains flat in quick turns and accellerates quickly. Steering wheel is well weighted and gives great road feel. As you can tell I really liked it.
 
By comparison the Acadia/Enclave steering seems over-boosted, there is more wallow in turns, and generally are not nearly as involving to drive. They are NOT bad cars, just different.
 
 I fully recognize that many here could care less about handling, etc. Just think that given the similarities in price point, at least for the high end Lambda platforms, prospective buyers owe it to themseleves to at least drive the MDX.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [jimmy2x] by zman3
Feb 21, 2008 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: jimmy2x (Feb 21, 2008 10:04 am)

I agree with what you say about them being different. We wanted the extra space of the Enclave more than we wanted the performance of the MDX, so that is what we bought. If space is not an concern I can easily see why someone would buy the MDX.
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [zman3] by jimmy2x
Feb 21, 2008 (6:13 am)
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Replying to: zman3 (Feb 21, 2008 10:30 am)

Agree 100% about the space issue. Since it will normally be just my wife and I with only occassional use for up to four people, the 3rd row to us is a non-issue. If we buy the MDX, am sure that we will flop down the 3rd row the day we get it, and never raise it again. Actually the 10" loss of length will make it easier to get in the garage .
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Re: Lambda vs. MDX [jimmy2x] by albook
Feb 21, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: jimmy2x (Feb 21, 2008 10:04 am)

I love the MDX. I say it's the best thing Acura's got going among their fading lineup. It's not quite up to the real luxury standards in my book- driving this back to back with a Mercedes M class makes me feel like I'm drving a nice Honda- but Acura has "advanced" in the last few years. And while the Banz may be more luxury, the MDX is definitely more fun to drive. If you want a sport luxury crossover for the family, there is simply no other way to go. The X5 is simply too heavy and the third row is a shelf!
 
Now if only Acura could correct the rest of it's line up. They just redid the TSX (which looks okay) but I'd rather have an Accord than that ugly RL.

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