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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [hoser0eh] by nxs138
Feb 20, 2008 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Feb 19, 2008 7:15 pm)

As far as GM goes, I'm a Chevrolet guy myself. If the Traverse would have come out now, I would have picked it over the rest of the Lambdas in a second. More horsepower and (presumably) none of that weird transmission quirkiness is exactly what these Lambdas need. And the wife likes the looks of the Traverse, as opposed to the Acadia which is too chunky for her.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [nxs138] by hoser0eh
Feb 20, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: nxs138 (Feb 20, 2008 6:54 am)

As far as GM goes, I'm a Chevrolet guy myself. If the Traverse would have come out now, I would have picked it over the rest of the Lambdas in a second. More horsepower and (presumably) none of that weird transmission quirkiness is exactly what these Lambdas need. And the wife likes the looks of the Traverse, as opposed to the Acadia which is too chunky for her.
 
Our current van lease is a Chevy Venture. 110K and no problems. It goes back in a week and we start driving the Enclave. We couldn't wait for the Traverse to be produced, but I know my wife preferred the looks and quietness of the Enclave anyway.
We only ever had two other Chevys; a 2000 Cavalier that my daughter still drives that has had no problems except for some dash lights that burned out and the heater fan that no longer works on the slowest speed (195K); and a 1986 Suburban that was great for pulling a 24 foot camping trailer (don't remember any problems).
 
In fact we've never had any serious problems with any domestic vehicles we have owned. The most problematic vehicles we have owned are; 1975 Datsun 610 wagon (our first vehicle, and one that my wife couldn't wait to get rid of), and a 1994 Honda Accord which had numerous problems (probably not the Accord's fault; it was in 5 accidents; none were our fault; it was just a magnet for other cars to hit for some reason).
In Honda's defense, we currently drive a 2005 Civic as a runabout vehicle, and it has been great. And I would have probably bought an Odyssey, if my wife would have been willing to drive another van.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [albook] by ateixeira
Feb 20, 2008 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 19, 2008 3:37 pm)

Good point about their being better sources, and I'd go as far as even agreeing with the ones you suggest (C&D, Edmunds, and I'll add Autoweek).
 
I wouldn't call myself a fan of CR, but they are useful because they measure a lot of things that noone else does (payload, towing, turning radius, cargo box dimensions, etc.). So taken FWIW, I find them useful.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [ateixeira] by dbt
Feb 20, 2008 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 19, 2008 10:29 am)

"Though you gotta wonder, what makes them think they're qualified to rate automobiles in the first place?"
 
This is another of USNews' great ideas: cull reviews from magazines / newspapers / whereever, and combine them into a single cardinal ranking. Just like they do for college / law school rankings. It's not them doing the rating, it's others. They're just putting it all together under some secret-special-sauce-weighting system.
 
And if you think this particular ranking is controversial, google U.S. News law school rankings controversy ...
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [hoser0eh] by bobw3
Feb 20, 2008 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Feb 19, 2008 7:15 pm)

What did you think of the Flex?
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [bobw3] by baggs32
Feb 20, 2008 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 20, 2008 12:08 pm)

What did you think of the Flex?
 
Yeah, and could you actually open the doors and get in one hoser0eh?
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [baggs32] by albook
Feb 20, 2008 (3:07 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Feb 20, 2008 2:14 pm)

Yeah, and could you actually open the doors and get in one hoser0eh?
 
I didn't go to the Toronto show, but I went to the Chicago show, and you couldn't open them there, so I doubt it. Production can't be too far away, though (I've heard June).
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [ateixeira] by albook
Feb 20, 2008 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 20, 2008 8:33 am)

Good point about their being better sources, and I'd go as far as even agreeing with the ones you suggest (C&D, Edmunds, and I'll add Autoweek).
 
 I take it you're not an MT fan. People talk about them a lot. I really don't complain; I read MT because they always have the latest info (well, behind Edmunds, but before any other magazine).
 
I'm not a huge CR fan either. If I read CR, it's for amusement in a doctor's office- just to hear their oppinion on whatever vehicle they're testing. I would never go off them to buy a car, but that's just because I already know so much about cars, and like to do a lot of test driving. For someone who isn't as in to the automotive world, CR could be a decent source to use.
 
And I think everybody does turning circle.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [albook] by baggs32
Feb 20, 2008 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 20, 2008 3:07 pm)

I didn't go to the Toronto show, but I went to the Chicago show, and you couldn't open them there, so I doubt it. Production can't be too far away, though (I've heard June).
 
That's what I'm assuming too. Our show here isn't until late April this year (it's a decent sized show but not major by any stretch of the imagination) so I'm crossing my fingers that they put one on the floor for all to see since JOB1 is scheduled for April 7th.
 
I'm also hoping to see the new Volvo XC60 in a color other than the one Volvo is showing in it's newly released production pictures. I like it but it looks a little odd shaped in that color to me.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [baggs32] by albook
Feb 20, 2008 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Feb 20, 2008 5:46 pm)

That's what I'm assuming too. Our show here isn't until late April this year (it's a decent sized show but not major by any stretch of the imagination) so I'm crossing my fingers that they put one on the floor for all to see since JOB1 is scheduled for April 7th.
 
You never know; the Hyundai Genesis was sitting right on the floor in Chicago. I was suprised. Although, I do think if you want an experience like that, you might have to go to a major autoshow, not just your local city's. I really think if you want to get a general idea, sit in a TX. I can't imagine what ford could have done to really differentiate the two, although if they want anything resembling success, it better be something amazing.

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